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1 posted on 07/26/2015 5:20:48 AM PDT by metmom
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2 posted on 07/26/2015 5:21:42 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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"That's what Peter meant when he said that it is "reserved in heaven for you, who are protected by the power of God through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time" (1 Pet. 1:4-5)."

Amen thank God!

1 Peter 1:13 "Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ"

Others translations have...
"set your hope wholly and unchangeably on the grace..." (AMP)
"set your hope perfectly on the grace..." (ASP)
"place your hope completely on the grace...(CEB)
"hope with perfect stedfastness in the grace..." (Darby)
"put-your-hope completely upon the grace..." (DLNT)
etc etc etc...surely we get the picture?

Lean FULLY on God's GRACE!

God loves us and wants us wearing His "helmet of salvation" so we actually can...'prepare our minds for action'

Thanks for the post mm!

God bless!

3 posted on 07/26/2015 5:41:03 AM PDT by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure:for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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When Peter wrote his first epistle, attitudes toward Christians in the Roman Empire were not at all favorable. Because they would not worship the emperor as a god, or enter into other sinful pagan practices, Christians were looked upon with suspicion and disdain. In addition, Nero had blamed them for burning Rome (an act he himself perpetrated), so anger and hatred toward them was at its peak.

Not much has changed over the centuries has it? They still hate us for not entering in other sinful pagan practices. Greetings all.

6 posted on 07/26/2015 6:19:07 AM PDT by Mark17 (When I see the mountain, covered with snow, fallen from Heaven above. Makes me feel so small)
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I’m an Evangelical Catholic. Am I welcome?


7 posted on 07/26/2015 6:41:48 AM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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” When you find men who have been enlightened, who have experienced salvation and received the Holy Spirit, who have known the wholesome nourishment of the Word of God and touched the spiritual resources of the eternal world and who then fall away, it proves impossible to make them repent as they did at first. For they are re-crucifying the Son of God in their own souls, and by their conduct exposing him to shame and contempt. Ground which absorbs the rain that is constantly falling upon it and produces plants which are useful to those who cultivate it, is ground which has the blessing of God. But ground which produces nothing but thorns and thistles is of no value and is bound sooner or later to be condemned—the only thing to do is to burn it clean.”

Hebrews 6:4-8, JB Phillips translation

FWIW, here is Calvin’s commentary on the passage:

“But here arises a new question, how can it be that he who has once made such a progress should afterwards fall away? For God, it may be said, calls none effectually but the elect, and Paul testifies that they are really his sons who are led by his Spirit, (Romans 8:14;) and he teaches us, that it is a sure pledge of adoption when Christ makes us partakers of his Spirit. The elect are also beyond the danger of finally falling away; for the Father who gave them to be preserved by Christ his Son is greater than all, and Christ promises to watch over them all so that none may perish. To all this I answer, That God indeed favors none but the elect alone with the Spirit of regeneration, and that by this they are distinguished from the reprobate; for they are renewed after his image and receive the earnest of the Spirit in hope of the future inheritance, and by the same Spirit the Gospel is sealed in their hearts. But I cannot admit that all this is any reason why he should not grant the reprobate also some taste of his grace, why he should not irradiate their minds with some sparks of his light, why he should not give them some perception of his goodness, and in some sort engrave his word on their hearts. Otherwise, where would be the temporal faith mentioned by Mark 4:17? There is therefore some knowledge even in the reprobate, which afterwards vanishes away, either because it did not strike roots sufficiently deep, or because it withers, being choked up. 98

And by this bridle the Lord keeps us in fear and humility; and we certainly see how prone human nature is otherwise to security and foolish confidence. At the same time our solicitude ought to be such as not to disturb the peace of conscience. For the Lord strengthens faith in us, while he subdues our flesh: and hence he would have faith to remain and rest tranquilly as in a safe haven; but he exercises the flesh with various conflicts, that it may not grow wanton through idleness.”

Frankly, I think the plain & obvious meaning of the passage is that some DO fall away and renounce Christ, even after experiencing God’s grace. I agree with Calvin in this, they are the ones Jesus mentioned:

“Similarly, the seed sown among the rocks represents those who hear the message without hesitation and accept it joyfully. But they have no real roots and do not last—when trouble or persecution arises because of the message, they give up their faith at once.”

For us, not having perfect knowledge, I think it is safe to say we need to cling to Christ. IN HIM we are blessed.


14 posted on 07/26/2015 10:44:04 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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Your Secure Inheritance (from the book "Drawing Near" known as the BIBLE...


John 10:28
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

17 posted on 07/26/2015 5:19:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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