Posted on 07/15/2015 5:31:40 AM PDT by Gamecock
I will do that, God willing, tonight. I’ll even send the English language version with modern measurements, you know, cups of this, tablespoons of that instead of “a “hoofta” of this, “enough” of that, a “skoopeta” of this “more if you like” something, “less” if you don’t and instructions to cook it “until it’s done”! Greek cooking can be an adventure.
πολυ ωραια, (nicely done)
What exactly is a ‘hoofta’?
And, I’d be making a mistake to think a skoopeta is a small scoop, wouldn’t I. :>)
I grew eggplant last year. Didn’t this year, although I have some remaining dehydrated, evacuated, and frozen. It reconstitutes well. Makes great lasagna.
Saw some at the Jungle yesterday, a huge local grocery/vegetable market in our area. Almost bought, but with that recipe, I’ll buy.
At least you guys are persistent...
“What exactly is a ‘hoofta’?
And, I’d be making a mistake to think a skoopeta is a small scoop, wouldn’t I. :>)”
A hoofta is a handful. Obviously sizes vary!
And yes, if you think a scoopeta is a small scoop you’d be wrong. Had I said “kootala”, you’d be closer... though come to think of it, I suppose a skoopeta could be seen as a sort of “scoop”. Usually it’s used in “She’s so mean/ugly she’d put the skoopeta to cry!”
I’m so glad I didn’t ask. Lol.
There is a specific word for priest in the Greek. The Holy Spirit did NOT inspire the use of that word for New Testament church leadership. Take a hint.
>>It also means male blood relatives, usually cousins.<<
There is a specific word in the Greek for cousin. The Holy Spirit did NOT inspire the use of that word when speaking of Jesus brothers. Take a hint.
Brilliant post. Fascinating that God allows decline, when so many preachers are always “Success! Success! Success!” As you noted, Paul testified to declension in his time. Really, the letters all testify to it. It is reality, though vexing.
Thanks for solid truth to mull over!
“There is no such office of priest in the New Testament church other the Christ as the High Priest and the priesthood of all believers.”
Amen.
“One of the reasons Holy Tradition is so important is because it gives us both context and guidance for what we read in the NT.”
No, but it conveniently allows one to invent many schemes and claim they came from God.
“No, but it conveniently allows one to invent many schemes and claim they came from God.”
You mean the Holy Tradition a bunch of Greek speaking bishops used to decide which scritures among the hundreds of contenders would make it into the Bible you folks so love to thump, that Holy Tradition?
I find that boast appalling. The SPIRIT, not you or any other mortal, saw to the faithful preservation of the written Word. The dumbest newborn believer, filled with the Zoe of God, could spot fake texts while feverishly sucking on their milk bottle! Only when they have been thoroughly indoctrinated by those who have gone away from that sweet spot of dependence and joy do they start to second guess and doubt their Spirit-given wisdom.
Scripture—truth coming to us from God about HIM—all by its little old self destroys every dead religion on Earth, easily and handily. Read it, dine on it, and watch the fireworks as one “tradition” after another is blowed up real good.
“I find that boast appalling.”
I’ll just bet you do! Did that Spirit teach you how to read Greek too? I asked the local Rev. Billy Bob Jeff, of blow dried hair fame, that question and he said it was his snake that taught him!
That kind of nonsense doesn’t work on me, sorry. “Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up.”
This testimony is true.
Let’s indulge your fantasy for a moment that all of St. Ignatius is spurious, forgeries of the 250s.
Then it’s still the same question, a hundred and fifty years out. Why didn’t anyone complain about the introduction of the monarchical episcopacy in the 250s? You think you’ll find presbyterial governance in St. Cyprian (d. 258)? Or any hint that it was a controverted topic?
But in truth, Calvin was dead wrong. Schaff was dead wrong. The Ignatian epistles in question are genuine, and valid historical evidence for monarchical episcopacy in the early 100s.
Never ceases to amaze me the utter provincialism of some pockets of American Christianity. It occurs to almost no one to think "well if the Greek really said X...that must have occurred to the Greeks!"
Surely everyone just read the Scriptures, decided for themselves what they meant and then gravitated to so called teachers who agree with them. Surely that is what the first and second century practice was.
Right?
Hey, I love articles like this. Maybe some will be tempted to read the didache, clement of Rome, the Shepard and Jerome.
They actually may discover the Holy Spirit was leading men to faith in Christ for 1,500 years before the tradition of men that they follow first appeared on the earth.
Bravo, more Church Fathers please.
The Latin speaking bishops at Carthage may have had something to do with setting the canon, but happily in those years the Latins and Greeks were one.
Seeing the Church Fathers, had exactly the same scriptural base that we do today.. and each of them read them and decided what they meant ... and they often did not agree with each other on them...
How does a Romanist decide with "father" was right and what the scriptures mean
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