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The Vortex—Star-Spangled Heresy
churchmilitant.com ^ | July 3, 2015 | by Michael Voris

Posted on 07/04/2015 12:23:13 PM PDT by Morgana

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To: NKP_Vet; RnMomof7; metmom; caww; Elsie; MHGinTN
Your ancestors, unless they were Muslims or Buddists, were Catholic, so yes protestants got their faith from the Catholic Church. End of story.

My parents were Catholics, and taught me morality, but were utterly clueless when it came to Heaven and Hell, and how to go to the first, and avoid the second. I learned that by reading the Bible, and making my own personal interpretation of it. It's a beautiful thing. I might be guilty of the sin of presumption, but that's ok. I can live with it. 😇

21 posted on 07/04/2015 3:36:11 PM PDT by Mark17 (Lonely people live in every city, men who face a dark and lonely grave. Lonely voices do I hear)
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To: Morgana

It reared its ugly head in England. Check out John Milton. He wrote tracts against the episcopacy. Marx and the enlightment era went from there. You need no hierarchy...it’s just me and my bible.

We hear that same cry from Obama and Hillary! Sadly, Baptist and Evangelicals comply wholly. They don’t seem to realize that this was meant to destroy Christianity! That’s not to say in this country...many a Catholic has fallen for this as well. Destroy Peter...destroy Christianity. How clever is the enemy of humanity.

Reading through history, it’s easy to understand why some would feel this way with bad Catholic clergy and bad Catholics and so I’m not pointing fingers.

But like Peter, we have to look beyond that regardless if the Pope, the clergy, and the people aren’t the best...her teachings are perfect. John 6:68 - Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life.

The Catholic Church is Christ’s...not ours. Keep fighting for Our Lord and his Catholic Church...God is truth and the truth is HIS CHURCH regardless of us sinners.


22 posted on 07/04/2015 5:00:28 PM PDT by LilOlLady
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To: Dilbert San Diego

All truths come from the Catholic Church because it is Christ’s! Catholic schools were banned...we had to attend the prottie’s PUBLIC schools, we couldn’t vote or run for office.

When JFK ran, he was questioned again and again demanding that he wouldn’t bring his Catholic beliefs in the White House. It hasn’t changed if you have watched any of the nominations for SC Justices. Keep your Catholic God out of public service or you won’t get our vote. The irony is that all truth comes out of the Catholic Church, regardless of us sinners because the Church is Christ’s Church!

Sadly, throughout American history...some Catholics caved to truth to ‘get along’. Henceforth, we get the Kennedys, Pelosis, Durbins.


23 posted on 07/04/2015 5:00:28 PM PDT by LilOlLady
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To: Alex Murphy
This country was founded on an experiment. God is patient! His time is not our time. He has sat back and watched it become the heretical capitol of the world. Truth is whatever you want it to be...it defines what Protestantism is about. From the prottie hatred of the American Indian, to the Black, to the Catholic, to whoever. Now his Justice has came upon this country. That is what Voris is speaking of.
24 posted on 07/04/2015 5:00:28 PM PDT by LilOlLady
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To: JSDude1
Wrong, it’s not Protestant Christians who are responsible for the fall of America; it’s the secular left, numbscull. If you want to get technical about it, American Catholics (per survey results) are more liberal than American Protestants.

And it is the rejection of the most fundamental distinctive of the Reformation, that of Scripture as supreme as the wholly inspired and accurate word of God, that is a fundamental aspect of secularism.

25 posted on 07/04/2015 5:10:50 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: NKP_Vet; JSDude1
Your ancestors, unless they were Muslims or Buddists, were Catholic, so yes protestants got their faith from the Catholic Church. End of story.

Nonsense, and inconsequential even if it was true. The NT church which provided the NT, which itself supplemented the OT, stands in fundamental contrast to the church of Rome, which is a progressive deformation of it .

Yet in any case, even being the instrument and steward of Divine revelation does not require or mean that all that such says it is be followed. If you want to disagree, do so and see what this premise leads to.

26 posted on 07/04/2015 5:10:56 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: NKP_Vet; sasportas
“Your current Marxist Pope is pushing every wrong headed thing imaginable”.

Not on faith and morals.

Wrong, as even social teaching is based on faith and morals, including the latest papal encyclical, and Catholic papal teaching, as invoked by your own comrades, conveys that you are bound to give assent of mind and will to such, and not to engage in public dissent, even though (unlike infallible teaching) you may internally disagree.

Dispute it if you want, but the evidence will be against you.

The alternative is to not follow the pastors as docile sheep, but seek to ascertain the validity of papal church teaching by examination of evidences for it, as evangelicals are to do, and are censured by RCs for so doing.

27 posted on 07/04/2015 5:11:21 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: daniel1212
"Wrong, as even social teaching is based on faith and morals, including the latest papal encyclical, and Catholic papal teaching, as invoked by your own comrades, conveys that you are bound to give assent of mind and will to such, and not to engage in public dissent, even though (unlike infallible teaching) you may internally disagree."

This is totally incorrect. Sorry.

28 posted on 07/04/2015 5:15:03 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd
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To: Salvation

When it cleans up the priesthood we can talk.


29 posted on 07/04/2015 5:23:24 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: NKP_Vet
Oh, baloney. All the different churches I have attended over the years taught morality and God's words. Y'all must never have attended a fire and brimstone service. The people were taught right from wrong in every church I attended. I do not know where you got this crazy idea. I sure do not hear God's Word taught in the few masses I have seen. Some Protestants have fallen by the roadside just like some Catholics. They all need to start reading the Bible and believing what it says. This country needs an old fashioned revival where the Bible is taught verse by verse. None of this feel good junk.
30 posted on 07/04/2015 5:24:09 PM PDT by MamaB (Heb. 13:2)
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To: NKP_Vet

Then they got smart and saw just what was being taught by Catholics and wanted no part of it.


31 posted on 07/04/2015 5:27:43 PM PDT by MamaB (Heb. 13:2)
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To: MamaB

Some Protestants have fallen by the roadside just like some Catholics. They all need to start reading the Bible and believing what it says


Repeat LOUD and OFTEN...............................


32 posted on 07/04/2015 5:32:40 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Mark17

Why is it you believe the Bible is the Word of God?


33 posted on 07/04/2015 6:06:29 PM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: Mark17

**My parents were Catholics**

So you got your faith handed down to you by your parents, correct?

Thing is — you are still a Catholic if you were baptized in the Catholic Church.


34 posted on 07/04/2015 6:14:59 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ealgeone

Did you miss all the teams that Benedict XVI sent to seminaries?

They have been cleaned up.

Be glad I don’t have all my links or you would get them.


35 posted on 07/04/2015 6:20:39 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

The Catholic Church stands for the Catholic Church and nothing else.


36 posted on 07/04/2015 6:23:37 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

The Bible says that the Catholic Church stands for all.

The One true Church — the Catholic Church — and how to recognize it.

Use this guideline as a measure...

*It was founded by Jesus Christ Himself in Mt 16:18.
*It would be built on Simon Peter, Mt 16:18.
*It would be defended by GOD Himself, Mt 16:18-19.
*It would have authority given by Jesus Christ, Mt 16:19,18:17-18.
*It would be guided by the Holy Spirit who will dwell within it, Jn 14:15-17, Act 15:28,16:6.
*It would be one and undivided, Mk 3:24-25.
*It would have one fold and one shepherd, Jn 10:16.
*It would have Priests, Bishops, and Deacons, 1Tim 3:1-13.
*It must have the Holy Eucharist celebration, Jn 6:42-70, Acts 2:42.
*It must be found in all nations, Mt 28:19.
*It must be found in all centuries, Mt 28:20.
*Jesus Christ said He would be with His Church every day, in every year, until the end of the world,   Mt 28:20. (This means no gaps in time.)


37 posted on 07/04/2015 6:28:09 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NKP_Vet

“Not on faith and morals.”

Francis “Who-Am-I-To-Judge” El Pope


40 posted on 07/04/2015 6:40:28 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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