Posted on 06/28/2015 11:32:07 AM PDT by marshmallow
I bet “Catholics” of 1600 years ago would not recognize the RCC of today, I personally think they would think it repulsive.
From one who would not read the catechism, your personal attack on Catholicism is unfounded, silly, and complete waste of time
Your defense of ms mom who is too tired to stand up to her attacks against the Catholics on this forum and who is depending o toy and others to do her work for her is a waste of my time. Let her quote from this forum true Catholics. Otherwise stay out of it
Whatever happened to met mom and her marathon anti catholic rants?
Hmmm
I just read one of the Catholic Caucus “prayers”
Wow.
That is not the Christianity of the Bible.
Jesus is not a “high priest”, he is lord and savior
Mary is not a deity
GOLDEN PELICAN!!!!!! Bow down to the Golden Pelican while counting beads and praying to Mary.... why not a golden calf, I’m curious.
Blah blah blah
Catholic caucus. No idea what you are blathering on about
Mary a deity?
Some pagan site you have going on there calling itself catholic
Not for you so much, but for those who might be reading, from a simple Google :
Do Catholics pray to Mary? Do they consider her a Deity?
May 18, 2008
Written by Fr. Joe
Devotion to Mary goes back a long way in the Catholic church. But Catholics do not believe that Mary is divine and we don’t pray to Mary. God, made flesh in Jesus and present in the Holy Spirit, is the only One to whom we pray.
We do believe that Mary holds a special place among the saints of the church, and that the saints are part of a community of faith and love that doesn’t end with death. This “communion of saints” includes both the living and dead. We don’t “pray to” the saints either, but we believe that we can ask those who now live with God to pray for us, just as we pray for persons who have died.
Catholics don’t worship Mary; rather, we honor her. We honor Mary as the mother of God, as the first disciple of Jesus, and as the mother of the church. All three of these titles have their origins in the fact that in Mary’s life the Word of God became flesh and blood and that is the vocation to which every Christian is called — to live in such a way that God’s generous compassion becomes alive in our flesh and blood, in in our words and actions.
We look to Mary as a model in whom we can trust, and as a mother who supports and nurtures our own journeys of faith. Turning to her as the first of Christians, we ask her to pray for us.
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How can you ask a dead human mortal to pray for you, when Jesus very clearly says that He is the way, the truth and the life and “No one comes to the Father except through me”
Why do the words of Jesus Christ (not priest but Christ) mean so little to Catholics.
Ok, back to your mortal bones, icons, beads, golden pelicans and other symbolism over substance.
Simple. The third party, Saint or Mary or whoever, leads you to Jesus who then leads you to The Father.
Nope.
There is nothing like that in the Bible, that was completely made up by humans.
For those who may want to know, with biblical references, as tge Catholic Church is based on the bible:
956 The intercession of the saints. “Being more closely united to Christ, those who dwell in heaven fix the whole Church more firmly in holiness. . . . They do not cease to intercede with the Father for us, as they proffer the merits which they acquired on earth through the one mediator between God and men, Christ Jesus . . . . So by their fraternal concern is our weakness greatly helped.”495
Do not weep, for I shall be more useful to you after my death and I shall help you then more effectively than during my life.496
I want to spend my heaven in doing good on earth.497
957 Communion with the saints. “It is not merely by the title of example that we cherish the memory of those in heaven; we seek, rather, that by this devotion to the exercise of fraternal charity the union of the whole Church in the Spirit may be strengthened. Exactly as Christian communion among our fellow pilgrims brings us closer to Christ, so our communion with the saints joins us to Christ, from whom as from its fountain and head issues all grace, and the life of the People of God itself”498:
We worship Christ as God’s Son; we love the martyrs as the Lord’s disciples and imitators, and rightly so because of their matchless devotion towards their king and master. May we also be their companions and fellow disciples!499479 Nicetas, Expl. Symb., 10:PL 52:871B.
480 St. Thomas Aquinas, Symb., 10.
481 Roman Catechism I, 10,24.
482 Acts 2:42.
483 Roman Catechism I, 10,24.
484 LG 12 § 2.
485 1 Cor 12:7.
486 Acts 4:32.
487 Roman Catechism I, 10,27.
488 Cf. Lk 16:1, 3.
489 Rom 14:7.
490 1 Cor 12:26-27.
491 1 Cor 13:5; cf. 10:24.
492 LG 49; cf. Mt 25:31; 1 Cor 15:26-27; Council of Florence (1439):DS 1305.
493 LG 49; cf. Eph 4:16.
494 LG 49.
495 LG 49; cf. 1 Tim 2:5.
496 St. Dominic, dying, to his brothers.
497 St. Thérèse of Lisieux, The Final Conversations, tr. John Clarke (Washington: ICS, 1977), 102.
498 LG 50; cf. Eph 4:1-6.
499 Martyrium Polycarpi, 17:Apostolic Fathers II/3,396.
500 LG 50; cf. 2 Macc 12:45.
501 LG 51; cf. Heb 3:6.
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