Posted on 06/20/2015 12:42:46 PM PDT by rwa265
Listers, we’ve catalogued the first ten Vicars of Christ for the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. Save the information on our first pope – St. Peter – all the information presented is taken from the Catholic Encyclopedia and links for further reading are provided.
1. Pope St. Peter (32-67)
St. Peter held a primacy amongst the twelve disciples that earned him the title “Prince of the Apostles.” This primacy of St. Peter was solidified when he was appointed by Jesus to the Office of the Vicar – demonstrated by Christ giving St. Peter the Keys to the Kingdom. To understand St. Peter, one must first understand Christ and the Church Christ came to establish. Jesus is the “Son of David” and his life and ministry fulfilled the Old Testament prophecies of the New Davidic Kingdom and New Jerusalem; hence, we look to the historic kingdom of King David as a guide to the New Davidic Kingdom. King David had a vicar that ruled his kingdom when David was absent and the sign of authority for this vicar was the keys of the kingdom. In the New Davidic Kingdom, Christ the Son of David gave the keys to his Vicar to guide the Kingdom until the return of Christ – we now refer to this vicar as “the pope.” SPL has written extensively on these issue in http://www.stpeterslist.com/45/10-biblical-reasons-christ-founded-the-papacy/ and http://www.stpeterslist.com/94/13-biblical-reasons-st-peter-was-the-prince-of-the-apostles/.
(Excerpt) Read more at stpeterslist.com ...
So what?
If it is important enough to keep track of me and my posts, I am hitting home. I am square over the target, and I see nothing but invective in return. When WE post Scriptures to refute the myths and fairy tales of the pagan-base cult of roman catholicism, all we see in return is more blah, blah, blah. Nothing of consequence seems to be retorted, only posting of obsolete and long ago discounted heresies put forth by the roman catholic cult.
Than anybody can honestly not see the effects of early indoctrination, coupled by threats of being put out on the street (so to speak of excommunication), they really have nothing but ridicule due them. It is indeed pathetic that I keep getting such mosquito bites as coming from the author of this post, but again, he has NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT THE THEME OF THIS THREAD.
The First 10 Popes of the Catholic Church... are figments in the minds of a cult! They have no basis in Scripture, nor history, yet they keep telling us it is so, because they say it is so!
My Greek and Hebrew is extremely limited (studied it about 10 years ago and learned just enough to be theologically dangerous), but a Hebrew word that ends in "ah" is usually feminine. Soos is horse, but soosah is mare. Hence many (most?) of the feminine names in the OT end in an a or ah (Sarah, Deborah, Rebecca, etc).
Or that's how I remember it and my books are all packed away and unavailable at them moment.
Which teach what you denied! How is bread becoming actual human flesh proving transubstantiation which denies it is actual human flesh? Or have your changed your mind? That God can do something does not prove He did and is.
Apparently the Catholics are hitting home with you since you don’t address issues but rather debate by attack.
Your reply makes zero sense.
Cool!
Please add me again, I need to be a better Christian.
There is that.
As curious as the sight may be, I suppose watching common park pigeons outplay pretend-to-be "masters" get's old after a while.
Well that, and the "master" over and over playing bone-simple mirror moves accompanied by hand-waving posturing & theatrical flourish --- as if "taa-dAH! I've got them beat now!"...on move 3.
Please do not contact me outside of the forum without my direct permission.
Resorting to which fallacious response is no more valid than your previous one.
pacemaker...marker
Gee I wonder where he learned that ??
In 150 AD, a contemporary writer, in “The Shepherd of Hermas”, confirms that the Roman church is still overseen by a plurality of “elders”. Moreover, these “elders” fought among themselves and brought scandal to the church.
Hermas, wrote: “But you yourself will read [my book] to this city [Rome], along with the elders (“presbuteroi” in the original Greek) who preside (proistamenoi – plural leadership) over the church.” (Vis 2.4). Hermas could not be more clear. There is a plurality of presbyters who “preside over” the church at Rome. There is no one person in charge.
But more, he urged them,
“I say to you [tois – plural] who lead the church and occupy the seats of honor: do not be like the sorcerers … You carry your drug and poison in your heart. You are calloused and do not want to cleanse your hearts and to mix your wisdom together in a clean heart, in order that you may have mercy from the great King.
Watch out, therefore, children, lest these divisions of yours [among you elders] deprive you of your life. How is it that you desire to instruct God’s elect, while you yourselves have no instruction? Instruct one another, therefore, and have peace among yourselves,”
We’ve seen Jesus admonish this behavior when the disciples themselves “argued among themselves as to who was greatest”. Nor does Hermas attribute any gift of “infallibility” to these elders, who themselves “have no instruction”.
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2015/05/13-things-you-didnt-know-about-papacy.html
Catholics are not Christians
The figurative fingers go in the ears and the hands over the eyes as soon as catholic eyes find the first line of your post. Piety in catholicisim is to reject and ignore anything which the Vatican has not approved for their ears and eyes. Well, except in things of the flesh ...
But some Christians are Catholics. I knew a Mormon who was first a Christian.
As far as your agnosticism goes that's entirely your business. It's your eternity and it's you who has to decide where to spend it. What other people do whether Christian, agnostic, atheist, or whatever has no bearing on where you spend eternity.
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