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To: Mrs. Don-o
we are not to indulge in rabbit-like copulation which is all-instinct and no-forethought in bringing forth progeny. Especially if there is a real health issue involved: seven consecutive Cesareans was mentioned, an objectively heightened risk of uterine rupture, especially during a VBAC. In such case, the woman and baby would die quickly and badly.

Look at you; judging the poor woman just like Francis did. How do you what type of copulation she engaged in?

And it appears you selectively quoted Pope Francis.

Francis accused her of tempting God. That's horrible advice from a Pope.

18 posted on 05/23/2015 2:30:14 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

I never said one word about some particular woman copulating like a rabbit. Geez Louise! Get serious, ebb tide!

That's what Pope Francis said couples shouldn't do: breed like rabbits.. He didn't say that's what this particular woman was doing!

Not only that, but the allusion to fatal risk (e.g. uterine rupture) after seven Cesareans is just medical fact. The Pope said "This is to tempt God" --- which means, she need not take on additional risks by exposing herself to yet another pregnancy.

Generally speaking, I think obstetrical risks vary a great deal from woman to woman, and some individuals could have 9 or 10 C-sections and do just fine. But where there's scarring and a big risk of uterine rupture, the baby and mother could die in minutes.

Even if the Pope's language was indelicate, his concern was not misplaced, nor was his moral advice --- recommending NFP --- objectionable in any way from a Catholic/ethical point of view.

21 posted on 05/23/2015 2:53:24 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment. " John 7:24)
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