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Should the Vatican Sell its Treasures…
Catholic Convert ^ | May 15, 2015 | Steve Ray

Posted on 05/15/2015 4:04:52 PM PDT by NYer

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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Good verse to go with this.

Amazing that Catholics know the Bible, huh? /sarc off


21 posted on 05/15/2015 5:45:12 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: delchiante

Is the truth found in days, delchiante? Or in “Today”, so that...

“Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts.”


22 posted on 05/15/2015 5:47:21 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: NYer
Mat_6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Mat_19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

Luk_12:21 So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.

Mat_6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
Mat_6:20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

God condemns the stored up wealth of your religion and you still claim that your religion wrote the bible; owns the bible...How ridiculous is that???

23 posted on 05/15/2015 5:49:16 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: NYer

Should never have that much anyways...you can only take your soul to heaven.....


24 posted on 05/15/2015 5:50:50 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 (Get the USA out of the UN then get the UN out of the USA; send bamaboy back to Kenya ASAP!!!!)
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To: NYer
And the gold? This one takes your breath away. Granada -
25 posted on 05/15/2015 5:53:26 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: NYer

**Food for Africa. Do You Want to Sign a Petition?**

Obviously this poster has never heard the story about giving a person a fish versus teaching them how to fish and thus making them productive and self-feeding instead of waiting for another hand out. But if this person is a product of the American “school” system, they only know that welfare is the only way to get rid of the poor.


26 posted on 05/15/2015 5:57:29 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: NYer

I got question was this idea came out in after Tudor England times I think so it come every few 50 years they thinking about it


27 posted on 05/15/2015 6:42:49 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: NYer

Why not a suggestion that the Smithsonian should auction off all that junk and give the money to the poor.....they could use the building for a homeless sheltes....


28 posted on 05/15/2015 6:51:00 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL...)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Now they hide behind “international law” as the excuse? The pope can sell off whatever he wants to sell off. He can make it happen if he wants to. He can direct his officers (cardinals and archbishops) to do the same thing. International Law. When it suits them they cite International Law. When in other cases it suits them, they cite Canon Law. Good grief.

WOW, it's amazing how much you know about the Vatican and its workings......NOT

29 posted on 05/15/2015 6:54:12 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL...)
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To: delchiante
They have sold the world their december 25 lie, their good Friday lie, their easter Sunday and every Sunday lie, and their pope gregory calendar lie. Lots of people, even Protestants, have bought a lot of knock offs the Vatican sells.. The world would be better served to junk that stuff and buy the truth..

Don't pay any attention to those dates...never mind Christmas Easter and whatever and if you don't like the Gregorian Calendar, invent your own........of wait a minute, you already have a meaningless bunch of nonsense dates that mean nothing to anybody.....Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!

30 posted on 05/15/2015 6:59:30 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL...)
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To: combat_boots
And the gold? This one takes your breath away. Granada

One of the qualities of gold is that it can be laid on things in an EXTREMELY thin layer....the golden dome of Notre Dame university is gold.....not much of it, but gold.

31 posted on 05/15/2015 7:05:49 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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To: terycarl

Ok professor enlighten us all.


32 posted on 05/15/2015 7:36:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Iscool
Sell everything, spend everything, and then it's gone. Can't help another person after that, can they? It's called responsible stewardship.

You wouldn't handle your own expenses the way you apparently think the Church should. If you did, you wouldn't own a computer to freep with. If God condemns the Church for maintaining assets, then He also condemns you.

34 posted on 05/15/2015 10:11:17 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Cruz or lose!)
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To: HarleyLady27
...but you can pass on your worldly goods to your descendants. Unless you believe in the death tax, of course.
35 posted on 05/16/2015 3:39:50 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: NYer
I got a sour taste about how much the Catholic Church lays out for the poor" back in the late '70s.

Was stationed at San Vito Air Station and there was a Catholic orphanage in Carovigno just down the way.

The Church owned the property and had it staffed with an old priest and 2 nuns. The place was a wreck and we sponsored it to make improvements to keep the kids dry and warm. The roof leaked and we completely scraped and resurfaced it. There were gaping rough-in holes without windows and rough holes in the floor where stones had been improperly laid. It was a mess and the weather was allowed free access to the place. We we told by the priest that the Catholic Church "gracefully allowed the use of its facility for the orphans" but it was wholly dependent on public charity - the Church wouldn't put a lire into it.

He then asked if we would refresh the small chapel because it was showing wear and tear - we respectfully declined until such time as the living quarters for the kids was in good shape...

I thought the situation sucked, but it was gratifying to be doing something good and the kids loved it when we showed up - they'd run into the dirt courtyard and holler "Pazzo Americani! (Crazy Americans!). They'd bring out an old soccer ball and we'd play with them for a while before we got started with the project for that day.

The Church's reticence in spending its wealth on the kids was double-edged - it bothered me but it also gave some of us the opportunity to do some soul-refreshing work.

36 posted on 05/16/2015 4:05:04 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Sell everything, spend everything, and then it's gone. Can't help another person after that, can they? It's called responsible stewardship.

Oh c'mon...There's not a single person being helped with the riches of the Vatican...You guys have a steady influx of income that handles your charities...

So you are rejecting what God says why???

37 posted on 05/16/2015 4:25:38 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: avenir

Today is His 5th day.
The day He made the creatures in the Seas.
And the birds in the heavens

Thanks to Rome, it’s called Saturday.. and instead of a work day, millions think its holy.

Worship Him who made heaven the earth the sea and all that is in them is the command of one angel in Revelation . REV 14:7

Truth is truth. And the Vatican is selling a counterfeit..

Now if people dont think Rome is the 4th kingdom of Daniel that is responsible for changing times and laws, then nobody has any reason to question them and can trust them.

Scripture warns about another gospel and another Jesus. The Vatican has each..


38 posted on 05/16/2015 6:02:17 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: NYer

This argument surfaces in every generation.

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Yes, it does....though it has surfaced much more frequently of late due to the tremendously widespread ignorance of this generation. (sigh)

Maybe after the collapse, we will #1.look again to God and His ways and #2. build better schools.


39 posted on 05/16/2015 6:24:03 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: terycarl

We do have to give Vatican some credit for reading the first five books.

January 1st is a holy day and perfectly 8 days from December 25 which they can celebrate the circumcision.

And then Feb 2 is also a holy day which commemorates the presentation 40 days from birth.

Those are counterfeits to the genuine truth but they do follow the ‘template’ of scripture.

Just like goodfriday/holy Saturday/easter Sunday follows the ‘template’ in scripture.

Problem is , Passover is the actual day the Lamb was slain.. and that day ‘floats’ around the Pope Gregory calendar.

On the Father’s calendar , Passover is always the 6th and final workday.
Even when it lands on a Monday.

And a counterfeit gospel and a counterfeit Christ created according to a catechism and not the scriptures..
Subtle, but the enemy is subtle. And billions wont see it..


40 posted on 05/16/2015 6:24:20 AM PDT by delchiante
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