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“The Greatest of All Protestant Heresies”?
ligonier ministries ^ | May 12,2015 | Sinclair Ferguson

Posted on 05/12/2015 4:21:27 PM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: metmom

KNOW!


181 posted on 05/13/2015 4:42:00 AM PDT by Elsie (I was here earlier!)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
Wait, once saved always saved. I guess Paul was wrong.

Nah; his words just got SEVERELY edited by someone...



Philippians 2 King James Version (KJV)

If there be therefore any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any bowels and mercies,

Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.

Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.

Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

14 Do all things without murmurings and disputings:

15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

16 Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain.

17 Yea, and if I be offered upon the sacrifice and service of your faith, I joy, and rejoice with you all.

18 For the same cause also do ye joy, and rejoice with me.

19 But I trust in the Lord Jesus to send Timotheus shortly unto you, that I also may be of good comfort, when I know your state.

20 For I have no man likeminded, who will naturally care for your state.

21 For all seek their own, not the things which are Jesus Christ's.

 

182 posted on 05/13/2015 4:45:45 AM PDT by Elsie (I was here earlier!)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Typical rebellion problem; eh?


183 posted on 05/13/2015 4:46:22 AM PDT by Elsie (I was here earlier!)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
But that possibility aside, anyone who asks for proof that Henry, possibly the biggest murder in history up until the 20th Century, was unhappy and totally a godless brute I don’t think they are either serious or have any intellectual depth whatsoever.


184 posted on 05/13/2015 4:51:41 AM PDT by Elsie (I was here earlier!)
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To: ebb tide; terycarl
As far as licentious lifestyles all you need to do is look at the lives of Luther and Henry VIII once they abandoned the Faith



Wonderful instruction!




Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy

Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]

Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]

Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]

Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

185 posted on 05/13/2015 4:53:40 AM PDT by Elsie (I was here earlier!)
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To: CraigEsq

DAng it!

Selective editing only works if folks like YOU don’t show up!


186 posted on 05/13/2015 4:55:58 AM PDT by Elsie (I was here earlier!)
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To: tjd1454

Festus is on the phone. He wants to speak to you.

Acts 26:24
And as he was saying these things in his defense, Festus said with a loud voice, “Paul, you are out of your mind; your great learning is driving you out of your everlovin’ GOURD!”


187 posted on 05/13/2015 4:58:05 AM PDT by Elsie (I was here earlier!)
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To: tjd1454

Thank GOD that you are not like that publican!


188 posted on 05/13/2015 4:58:45 AM PDT by Elsie (I was here earlier!)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
...the whole statement “WORK OUT YOUR SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING” does not make sense.

REALLY?

189 posted on 05/13/2015 5:00:37 AM PDT by Elsie (I was here earlier!)
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To: WVKayaker; narses
Of course, I post provocative pics to get the attention of narrow minds.

narses you ain't!

190 posted on 05/13/2015 5:01:31 AM PDT by Elsie (I was here earlier!)
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To: Religion Moderator
Ridiculing God is tacky.

Ridiculing Rome's Mary makes heads explode!

191 posted on 05/13/2015 5:02:23 AM PDT by Elsie (I was here earlier!)
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To: Salvation
I encourage you to take another look. Catholic articles usually do not denigrate another denomination or group — they basically just present the Catholic facts.

HA HA

192 posted on 05/13/2015 5:03:16 AM PDT by Elsie (I was here earlier!)
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To: Cronos
I agree with you

Then can I take you at your word that you will NOT be bashing Protestants any more?

193 posted on 05/13/2015 5:05:37 AM PDT by Elsie (I was here earlier!)
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To: RnMomof7
It is the good tree that produces good fruit, not the other way round. We are not saved by works; we are saved for works.

We are not saved by believing we are saved. If the view that one who believes is already saved and could never be lost is correct, then there is no downside for the one who believes but also believes he could be lost if he fell away. If, on the contrary, the view that one can never fall from grace is incorrect, then there is tremendous downside to the believer who falsely trusts that he can never fall from grace, and becomes lazy, unfaithful and unwise through the deceitfulness of sin.

Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods. And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his journey. Then he that had received the five talents went and traded with the same, and made them other five talents. And likewise he that had received two, he also gained other two. But he that had received one went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord's money. After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them. And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: behold, I have gained beside them five talents more. His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord. He also that had received two talents came and said, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: behold, I have gained two other talents beside them. His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord. Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed: And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine. His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed: Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury. Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents. For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come.

And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Matthew, Catholic chapter twenty four, Protestant verses forty two to fifty one,
Matthew, Catholic chapter twenty five, Protestant verses fourteen to twenty nine,
Galatians, Catholic chapter five, Protestant verses five to six,
First Timothy, Catholic chapter four, Protestant verse eight,
Revelation, Catholic chapter twenty two, Protestant verse ten to seventeen,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

194 posted on 05/13/2015 5:07:43 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Elsie

Is she standing on golden horns??


195 posted on 05/13/2015 5:08:54 AM PDT by Elsie (I was here earlier!)
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To: Elsie; Cronos
Then can I take you at your word that you will NOT be bashing Protestants any more?

You're the guy who called me a "mackerel snapper," right?

"Mackerel snapper" was once a sectarian slur for Roman Catholics, originating in the United States in the 1850s. [That's old school!]
Just sayin'.
196 posted on 05/13/2015 5:11:05 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
ok.

But for the record;


197 posted on 05/13/2015 5:24:43 AM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: Elsie
Els meister, would that be classified as a graven image? 😱🙀 I am sure it is. We used to have one in our house. I am sorry to say, I used to kneel before that graven image. 😡
198 posted on 05/13/2015 5:30:57 AM PDT by Mark17 (The love of God, how rich and pure, how measureless and strong. It shall forever more endure.)
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To: Iscool
As I stated, I believe faith alone to be enough, for the reasons you stated.

I also believe there is no way to perfectly “work” your way to salvation.

BUT, although I acknowledge the above I will still try my best to do the good works I know God wants me to do, not to earn my way into heaven, but because I know it's what God wants of me.

199 posted on 05/13/2015 5:35:19 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: metmom

And not a one of those says that our salvation hangs on doing those good works, or that we lost our salvation if we don’t.


I believe there is a lot of room for argument on that.

Mathew 25
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.


200 posted on 05/13/2015 5:35:40 AM PDT by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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