Posted on 05/09/2015 7:44:31 AM PDT by RnMomof7
Millions of sincere Catholics wear the brown scapular thinking by doing so it will help them spiritually. They believed the report that Mary made and is backing a salvation promise in connection with the brown scapular hundreds of years ago based on their religious traditions. Over the years wearing the brown scapular has been perpetuated by sincere Catholic leaders, such as the one in this video, but it is in complete futility that it is worn. It is a false hope and a spiritual snare. 
It is not based on God’s truth and is, therefore, just as deadly for the sincere Catholic as it is for the Hindu who bathes in the Ganges River thinking his sins will be washed away in the water or for the Muslim who kisses the black stone of Kaaba to be forgiven! [The picture to the right is Mel Gibson, the director of the Passion of Christ, wearing a brown scapular as he smokes.]
I too once wore the brown scapular as an Ex Roman Catholic. I know what it is like to be taught something and accept it as truth to find out later it is not only unscriptural, but anti-scriptural. It hurts, but TRUTH is what we must stand on to be safe. It takes humility in such cases to turn.
NOTE: At about 2:23 time-wise into the video, the speaker is quoted below. How could anyone deny that Mary is deified in Catholicism? Surely, this rampant idolatry is grieving to the Lord Jesus Christ and God the Father. This is what Catholicism teaches about the brown scapular:
And so, wearing of the brown scapular reminds us, should remind us, of three things. First, that we are children of Mary. Second of all, that we need to work for our Lady. And finally, it should be a garment of humility and penance. First, by the brown scapular we profess ourselves to be children of Mary. The scapular of our Lady is a badge or a uniform so to speak by which we profess to whom we belong and who we serve. Likewise, our Lady in turn by wearing the brown scapular, she recognizes us as her children, as her special children. And because of that, she consequently protects us and watches over us. The brown scapular should also remind us that we need to work for our Lady because the scapular, which means shoulder garment, was originally that, it was a garment worn by religious in order to protect their habit, their religious habit that they wore on a daily basis during those periods of work to keep it from getting dirty, stained, from ripping, etc. and so therefore the scapular is a working garb. And so this should remind us that there’s no room for lazy piety. If we wear the brown scapular and we consider ourselves our Lady’s children, there’s no place for lazy piety but rather we should fill our lives with good works. This brown scapular should remind us the need to faithfully fulfill our daily duties, and to make another adaptation of Scripture, to labor as good soldiers of the Immaculate. Finally, the third place, the brown scapular is also a garment of humility and of penance. So in a spirit of penance, we should accept all the difficulties of our state of life and all the sufferings that our Lady may want to send us. And the scapular will give us the strength to do this. In all of our difficulties, we can always grab onto our brown scapular, remind ourselves of our Lady’s protection, her watchfulness, her presence and especially at the moment of death, when we can call to mind our Lady’s promise of salvation. Our Lady of Mount Carmel, pray for us.
* Not a single word about Jesus was mentioned there.
* The brown scapular is 100% religious mythology and idolatry, as Mary is deified as a type of Savior.
* No Bible light shines from such brown scapular Catholic tradition.
I see a "distinction without difference." That the BVM serves as the example just goes to highlight the duplicity in that there is no clearer example of "mind-reading" I can think of than telling someone else whether they are worshiping or not.
His website, he gets to make the rules. You don’t like them....start your own website.
There's always the abuse button. You can hit it on yourself. I have and it works.
The problem is, this is not instantaneous communication. It takes time to compose a response, as opposed to saying something off the cuff that you will regret later.
Since one has to think of the response and take the time to type it and check for spelling and grammar errors, lest the grammar police show up, there's hardly an excuse for shooting off something without thinking about it.
I have posted stuff I've later asked to be deleted and stuff that I deleted before I even hit the post button (which I have to do TWICE) to post my response.
Thanks so much for the clarification.
Chapter and verse?
Cause all I can find is this.....
TO the FATHER, in the name of the SON.
Matthew 6:7-15 “And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. Pray then like this:
“ Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Luke 11:1-13 Now Jesus was praying in a certain place, and when he finished, one of his disciples said to him, “Lord, teach us to pray, as John taught his disciples.” And he said to them, “When you pray, say:
“Father, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread, and forgive us our sins, for we ourselves forgive everyone who is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation.”
And he said to them, “Which of you who has a friend will go to him at midnight and say to him, ‘Friend, lend me three loaves, for a friend of mine has arrived on a journey, and I have nothing to set before him’; and he will answer from within, ‘Do not bother me; the door is now shut, and my children are with me in bed. I cannot get up and give you anything’? I tell you, though he will not get up and give him anything because he is his friend, yet because of his impudence he will rise and give him whatever he needs.
And I tell you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened. What father among you, if his son asks for a fish, will instead of a fish give him a serpent; or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”
Luke 18:1-8 And he told them a parable to the effect that they ought always to pray and not lose heart. He said, “In a certain city there was a judge who neither feared God nor respected man. And there was a widow in that city who kept coming to him and saying, ‘Give me justice against my adversary.’ For a while he refused, but afterward he said to himself, ‘Though I neither fear God nor respect man, yet because this widow keeps bothering me, I will give her justice, so that she will not beat me down by her continual coming.’”
And the Lord said, “Hear what the unrighteous judge says. And will not God give justice to his elect, who cry to him day and night? Will he delay long over them? I tell you, he will give justice to them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on earth?”
John 14:12-14 “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father. Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.
I can see the logic in the rule from what I quoted in in post #152, but here's an example of that "tension" mentioned at the end of the post. In other words, I can see why the moderator "will not decree what is or is not truth," but I can also see some interesting problems that may thereby be introduced.
I just reloaded the thread and found your post #161: "there is no clearer example of 'mind-reading' I can think of than telling someone else whether they are worshiping or not." Even before I reloaded the thread, I was thinking of this sort of thing as one of those "interesting problems."
Christianity is about CHRIST, not the Catholic church.
Catholicism is like a tree trunk that has many branches of disagreement. If the trunk is defective, Christianity Catholicism is a failure.
So, you’re going to come on this forum like you own it, lay down your own personal forum rules, make accusations against a specific poster, offer NO evidence of wrongdoing on any poster other than yourself, evade direct requests for naming the accused slander that another poster has committed against Rome, chew out the site operator, and then snark off with “Thanks so much for the clarification”. Huh!
Not calling you out as a jerk, but this is how a Roman Catholic jerk on Free Republic might act when not given his/her own way on this Religion Forum!
(And you said you were leaving and going somewhere else.)
If Roman Catholicism tree trunk is rotten, CHRISTIANITY is a failure?
Somebody missed at least one logic class.
The Roman Catholic tree trunk IS rotten. Has been. Filthy nasty rotten. Christianity has survived because thankfully they're not related -- Christianity comes from God... the Roman Catholic Cult come from man.
Are some who are members of the Roman church Christian? Yes. Do you have to be a member of the cult to be a Christian? No. Thankfully unrelated.
Hoss
Sure.
Who needs Jesus anyway when you have Mary to get salvation from?
It’s about control......
I’ve seen that *have to play my way and I’ll complain until I get the rules changed* tactic before.
Although what follows may have little to do with the topic, I thought that may all appreciate a nice Bible break:
[Romans 12:17] Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.
[18] If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
[19] Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
[20] Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
[21] Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good
Sure. But the term applies to no one on this forum, so I’m not entirely sure how it’s relevant.
Check out post 40 this thread.
You’ll see it used in a snarky manner, meant to be derogatory.
Catholics started Christianity. Those who follow truth come home to Rome. Those who look for specks in other people’s faith are just wasting their time.
Post Scripture here as often as the RM will allow. Selah.
None here on this Religion Forum is my enemy. Even if she thinks she is, she’s not.
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