Posted on 05/08/2015 2:05:28 PM PDT by ebb tide
Secondly, you don't seem to be aware of Francis's outright denial of Scripture:
Francispeak At Work: Jesus’ Miracle Of The Fish And Loaves.
This is the miracle: rather than a multiplication it is a sharing, inspired by faith and prayer.
Jesus Christ was also charged with a crime. What's your point?
Why are the churches so empty in Boston? By your logic, the investigation shouldn't stop with Bishop Finn. O'Malley ought also be investigated and removed. Why has someone with his atrocious record been appointed to the pope's kitchen cabinet? Clearly something is rotten in Rome.
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"...BCI finds it ironic that Cardinal O’Malley has been appointed to a committee to reform the Roman Curia, when his own central administration is troubled and he has failed to effectively govern and reform it for the past decade. Someone just suggested to BCI that Cardinal O’Malley serving on a committee to help reform the Roman Curia would be kind of like Hillary Clinton serving on a committee to help reform international embassy security.
In Boston, for nearly 3 years we have been documenting the ongoing problems of:
Nearly $4M annually in excessive six-figure salaries paid to lay executives
Moving around of funds from originally designated purposes to someplace else
Skyrocketing administrative expenses
Cronyism in hiring
Deception in communications and in policy making
Retention of Finance Council members and key advisers to the Cardinal who work against Catholic Church teachings
Routine violations of the archdiocesan Code of Conduct
Incompetence by high paid cabinet members
Draining of capital reserves to pay operating expenses
$140M in unpaid debt, with no plan to be able to repay the debt
34% decline in Mass attendance between 2000 and 2012
40-50% of parishes operating in the red
Abdication of leadership by Cardinal O’Malley and a failure by him to teach through his actions and words..."
Which is probably a very high percentage of hierarchy.
“First of all: Jimmy Akin is an arrogant, ignorant slob who makes up his own theology as he digs his hole deeper and deeper.”
In other words, you can’t refute the following: Pope Francis said, “The Gospel presents to us the account of the miracle of the Multiplication of the Loaves (Lk 9:11-17)...”
“The heresies and doctrinal errors taught by Jimmy Akin”
In other words, you can’t refute the following: Pope Francis said, “The Gospel presents to us the account of the miracle of the Multiplication of the Loaves (Lk 9:11-17)...”
“Jesus Christ was also charged with a crime. What’s your point?”
In other words, you can’t refute anything I said. Same old, same old.
“By your logic, the investigation shouldn’t stop with Bishop Finn.”
Do you think I would have a problem with that? I would not.
“O’Malley ought also be investigated and removed. Why has someone with his atrocious record been appointed to the pope’s kitchen cabinet? Clearly something is rotten in Rome.”
Not Rome, that’s just a city. There’s something downright lukewarm (which is worse than rotten in some ways) in the Church.
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No, not really. There’s no “Sharia movement” worth speaking of in Kansas City, Missouri and Bishop Finn has rarely ever mentioned Islam or Muslims and certainly not Sharia in any of his official or published statements.
Facetiousness detracts from rational discussion.
"Facetious and sarcastic have similar meanings and can describe less-than-serious comments. Enterprising teens can find uses for both kinds of comments." https://www.visualthesaurus.com/cm/wc/when-is-a-comment-facetious-and-when-is-it-sarcastic/
There’s something downright lukewarm (which is worse than rotten in some ways) in the Church.
Downright hellishly hot, rather.
Thank you.
“Facetiousness detracts from rational discussion.”
If you mean the Church, then say it. I did.
No, in other words, you can’t address my question. Same old, same old.
Yeah, you say a lot of "stuff"; so does Obama. Doesn't make either of you right.
This is the miracle: rather than a multiplication it is a sharing, inspired by faith and prayer. Everyone eats and some is left over: it is the sign of Jesus, the Bread of God for humanity. Pope Francis
Jimmy Akin is off his rocker and so is anyone quotes him as an authoritive source.
If both you and Akin took time to read the Bible, maybe the both of you could reconsider how a few little fish and seven loaves of bread fed 4,000 people with enough leftover to fill seven basketfuls of remnants and call that "sharing" rather than a miracle of multiplication.
Pope Francis stoops to even twist the Gospel to his own version of socialism - "sharing". And the likes of you and Akin defend him; absolutely pathetic.
How do you and Akin explain Francis stating that Jesus Christ faked anger or that the Blessed Mother felt betrayed? Why doesn't Francis write his own version of the Bible, just like Luther did?
“No, in other words, you can’t address my question. Same old, same old.”
Your questions, which are usually irrelevant, don’t need to be answered.
“Yeah, you say a lot of “stuff”; so does Obama. Doesn’t make either of you right.”
Except that I am right.
“I’ve already refuted it.”
Nope. You can’t refute this: Pope Francis said, “The Gospel presents to us the account of the miracle of the Multiplication of the Loaves (Lk 9:11-17)...”
“If both you and Akin took time to read the Bible,...”
I read it every day and probably know it better than you ever will. When you imply that I don’t believe in the multiplication of the loaves, you’re simply saying something that isn’t true. You have no evidence for that claim either. The fact that it is a false statement on your part, and that you have no evidence for it, probably will not stop you from making it.
“How do you and Akin explain Francis stating that Jesus Christ faked anger or that the Blessed Mother felt betrayed?”
Why don’t you look up what Akin says about it. More important for you probably is the fact that you’re making false statements - not whether or not Pope Francis is. You can’t do anything about Pope Francis or anything he does. Everyone here can, however, control his or her own actions. There’s no moral justification for making false claims. Don’t do it.
“Why doesn’t Francis write his own version of the Bible, just like Luther did?”
Why don’t you write your own false version of what Freepers believe? Oh, wait. You did.
Why don't you forget about what the heretical, money-grubbing slob, Akin, says about it; and look up what Pope Francis actually stated?
"In the Gospel, Jesus does not become angry, but pretends to when the disciples do not understand him," Pope Francis.
"The Gospel does not tell us anything: if she spoke a word or not… She was silent, but in her heart, how many things told the Lord! ‘You, that day, this and the other that we read, you had told me that he would be great, you had told me that you would have given him the throne of David, his forefather, that he would have reigned forever and now I see him there!’ Our Lady was human! And perhaps she even had the desire to say: ‘Lies! I was deceived!’ John Paul II would say this, speaking about Our Lady in that moment. " Pope Francis.
Now how in the heck does Francis know what both the Blessed Mother and Pope John Paul II were thinking during their earthly lives? Like I said, earlier, Francis is making up his own Bible. And both you and Akin are defending such nonsense. It is you, not I, who has been making false statements.
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