“I’ve got to admit, I never thought I’d see transgenderism championed on FreeRepublic!”
Recognizing the existence of reality is not necessarily having “transgenderism championed on FreeRepublic!” at all. You cannot honestly go about accusing people of being a witch and burning them at the stake in the metaphorical sense just because you want to believe in the fantasy that a person is a witch despite evidence to the contrary. Likewise, in the real world human beings are born with amazing and often bizarre differences in their gender and sexual characteristics determined by their chromosomes, hormones, and other medical factors. Denial of these medical and biological realities is dishonest and unChristian.
“If he was “man” enough to have multiple kids with multiple wives, you can forget convincing me he was a female all along.”
Perhaps real world facts are not enough to convince you of anything, which is then your problem and your sin of denial. Nevertheless, there are human beings who are born as apparent females with female genitalia who later are naturally transformed from females into males with male genitalia at puberty, and father multiple children. See the BBC documentary Fight To Be Male
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b-abEh2k6k
Such medical cases are only one of numerous ways currently known in which chromosomal, somatic, hormonal, and other factors can produce confusing combinations of gender and sexual characteristics in humans.
Before you set yourself up with the superior than thou attitude you ought to try putting yourself into the circumstances of one of the affected Batista children and tell us how you would regard your own gender, sexuality, and relationship with the Christian church under such a situation as they find themselves in.
What is the debate here??
Bruce Jenner is not a woman. Period.
Are you suggesting homosexuals are born that way and not because of their own volition???
No holier than thou attitude, but neither do I refuse to recognize sin as sin.
There is a very small percentage of people in this fallen world with screwed up chromosomes. In those very rare instances, I’ll give them a pass.
But the transgendered of the world are NOT those whose bodies spontaneously and without any effort on their own part transform. They are the ones who mutilate themselves to try to pretend to be something they are not. In any reasonable world, they would receive help, not support in perversion.
Perhaps YOU need to face reality: the vast majority of transsexuals are not the result of self-transforming bodies, but the result of perversion and perhaps mental illness. And someone calling themselves a Christian does not make them one any more than a man calling himself a woman makes him one.
Jenner had no trouble functioning as a man. His body was and is a man’s body. He has, however, lived for years in a perverted, sexually twisted family, There is no indication he believes in Jesus or what Jesus taught, or accepts the natural world revealed by God to all.
When he claims to be a Christian living as Jesus wants, then he does fall under the judgment of the church:
“But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? 13 God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”