Posted on 04/20/2015 1:46:59 PM PDT by NYer
Mine does...We worship the Trinitarian God...The Godhead...
Gen_1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image
I can only assume that I (we) worship a different God than you Catholics do...
The muzlimites see only God the Father (whom they don't recognize as the Father), which doesn't really exist...That God then becomes a god...God is a Triune person...Apparently Catholics see God as the Father only...That's not the God I worship...That's the god the muzlims worship...
The Trinitarian God was revealed to the muzlims as well as the Catholics and myself...None can go to heaven except by Jesus Christ, who is God...
Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
You don't worship Jesus as God, you don't worship God...
I'm perplexed. What's so little it's not worth mentioning?
"And you know the issue wasn't alcoholics..."
You introduced it as an analogy. I responded to it as an analogy.
"You were given a link to a thread where one of your very own claims Catholics do not pray to Mary...So that's the end of that conversation..."
It's true I was sent that link, but that's not the end of the conversation. Surely you've noticed that we've been struggling to define "pray" and to distinguish it from "adore." So it's worth asking what these other FReepers mean, isn't?
"When we see and hear you guys praying to Saints and Mary to give you things only God can provide, we know you are worshiping regardless of how you spin it... "
That does not follow logically. If we are asking for things which we know only God can provide, then we are asking for intercessory prayer TO GOD.
Our parish maintenance man, Ken, got an electric shock two weeks ago while trying to replace a light fixture, toppled off his ladder and sustained severe internal injuries. His survival and recovery is something that only God can provide. If I ask you to pray for him, it's not because I think you can work miracles due to your personal power or piety, but because I believe GOD can.
I would not be worshiping you!
Exactly the same with Mary: she is a creature and a handmaid. She prays for us. That's it.
I don't appreciate your "mind-reading", your presumption that you "know" I am worshiping Mary, when in fact I am not. But that kind of "mind-reading" seems to be the premise of this discussion.
A peaceful night to you, Iscool.
We are just a wee bit more refined here if FR's RF.
We can link to scripture here...
Ezekiel 23:20
The problem is not who you ask; but whether they are DEAD or not.
That is an ignorant question coming from all except those who don't know or believe the scriptures...It has been scripturally answered on these forums for years...
You keep asking the same question apparently hoping you will get a different answer that will agree with your unbiblical theory...
Is it special if you say whatever you are saying in Latin???
The actions of Catholics is exactly what shows us how Catholics interpret Catholic doctrine.
Talk is cheap and what a person DOES is what they really believe.
So catholics can deny all they want stuff like how they don’t worship Mary, but when what they do directed towards Mary is the same things that they do when they claim they are worshiping God, they are showing by their actions, that they are worshiping Mary, no matter what sounds are coming out of their mouths claim otherwise.
Actually; we are convinced by what SCRIPTURE has given us:
NIV 2 Corinthians 1:13-14
For we do not write you anything you cannot read or understand. And I hope that, as you have understood us in part, you will come to understand fully that you can boast of us just as we will boast of you in the day of the Lord Jesus.
Iffn y'all wanna take the word of a committee; fine.
I seem to remember that a committee chooses the pope...
Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]
Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.
Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy
Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy
Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]
Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]
Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]
Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.
You're nuts...It's faith alone in the shed blood of Jesus Christ that saves...
Scripture does present the work in a symbolic manner, but they are not viewed that way. God had to create the physical world before He could create the Universe. This required that He establish the laws of physics (natural revelation) to govern what he would introduce. When He created light and separated the darkness from the light, before He was creating time as the marking of the periods of darkness and light were the first and most primitive means of measuring time (Genesis 1:3-4). He then created space which is presented by separating waters. Because He had not created waters how else is it to be taken if not symbolic in its presentation?
How hard is it to read this? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1774184/posts
You understand that there is a difference between a website run by Catholics and a website administered by the Catholic Church......right?
Salvation came to the world through Mary.
According to FATC, The RCC has through history taught and then retracted several interpretations of scripture.. I asked for examples of scripture that the Church has retracted.
You are now stating that the Catholic Church has changed a number of doctrines. While I am waiting for FATC to respond to the first request, I will ask you to cite specific examples of doctrines that the Catholic Church has changed.
Prior to Vatican II all non-Catholic churchgoers will go to Hell.
??? For what? Is this an example of what you purport to be a change of doctrine and, if so, which doctrine changed?
...on Monday after Easter.
Please name them.
Then WHY do so many of your fellow Catholics go ballistic when your chosen religion is called one?
Poor catechism or the GOOD kind?
You had better hope you are right because you have bet eternity on your own very limited powers of interpretation and discernment.
She's right...And it doesn't have any thing to do with interpretation...It's all a matter of believing what was written by God...
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