Posted on 04/20/2015 1:46:59 PM PDT by NYer
But they sure talk all popey and use arrogance to their perceived advantage. Of course, a lie has no advantage over what is true. Lord Jesus Christ is the Truth.
Get over yourself noob, and you’ll get on with others a lot better on this site.
Isn't that what the CCC is for?
And if that's what you're here for, then start doing it. Don't simply just stir the pot.
I have never been to a church where the OT was not taught from. Where do these ideas come from?
**Often those least familiar with prayer are those who misunderstand and misrepresent Catholic prayer.**
I don’t need to try crack cocaine to know it is bad for me.
Oh, and welcome to FR.
The rest of the story, as Paul Harvey may have said.
That, and the points issued but ignored from the OP, pretty much answer 95% of what is raised on this thread as an “objection” to this historical, Traditional, Catholic teaching. As usual.
Also, as usual, I’m sure that (what is linked above) will go ignored too.
Far too many religious choices to protect.
You have the Gospel today only through the actions of the Catholic Church. FOr the first 350+ years after the first Pentecost there was no bible, only the verbal Traditions of the Church and later in numerous written accounts, most of which were errant. In 382 AD St. Pope Damasus I, in his efforts to standardize the Mass, called upon the Council of Rome for a formal Lectionary to be used in conjunction with the Liturgy of the Word in the Mass. The council selected 26 books from among nearly 600 texts in circulation based upon the criteria (canon) that they fully comported with Catholic teaching. Therefore, any text, interpretation, doctrine or belief that does not comport with Catholic teaching is not biblical or valid.
Thank you.
I have not received the warmest of welcomes either.
"Do not neglect hospitality, for through it some have unknowingly entertained angels." - Hebrews 13:2
This forum has been in a constant state of stir for decades.
"Isn't that what the CCC is for?"
The CCC can be found on www.vatican.va so technically, there is no excuse for the level of ignorance displayed.
I've never heard anyone compare prayer to crack cocaine before, but then I've been a Catholic all of my life.
I took a picture of two statues at a Catholic school the other day.
It shows a high school aged girl kneeling with her hands it the universal prayer symbol facing Mary.
Of course it will be countered she was only praying to Mary (it wasn't Mary, it was cement--there were no tears coming from her eyes) but even one of Jesus’ original disciples (I believe it was Peter) when another man got on his knees in front of him (bowed down like the cement girl above) was told not to do that, I am not God. (paraphrased)
Just a literary device known as hyperbole.
That would be giving glory to a false god, which, as I said before, God will never approve.
That doesn't at all contradict God's freedom in glorifying His saints, which is one of the frequently-repeated themes of Paul's Epistles.
You have to distinguish between honoring/venerating (dulia) and worshiping/adoring (latria). As you said, there's glory and then there's GLORY.
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No Danny, God loves those that are His..
Proverbs 8:17 ESV I love those who love me, and those who seek me diligently find me.
Psalm 5:5, "The boastful shall not stand before Thine eyes; Thou dost hate all who do iniquity," Psalm 11:5, "The Lord tests the righteous and the wicked, and the one who loves violence His soul hates." Lev. 20:23, "Moreover, you shall not follow the customs of the nation which I shall drive out before you, for they did all these things, and therefore I have abhorred them."
Prov. 6:16-19, "There are six things which the Lord hates, yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: 17 Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 A heart that devises wicked plans, feet that run rapidly to evil, 19 A false witness who utters lies, and one who spreads strife among brothers."
Hosea 9:15, "All their evil is at Gilgal; indeed, I came to hate them there! Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of My house! I will love them no more; All their princes are rebels."
http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2012/09/06/does-god-love-everyone/
All the verbs in the following Scripture -- about God giving glory to His faithful ones --- are past tense:
Romans 8:30
"And those he predestined
he also called;
and those he called
he also justified;
and those he justified
he also glorified."
This passage about the righteous Israelites being given glory,is past or present tense (depending on whether it means they were given glory in the past, when they received the covenants, or whether it means they "are" Israelites who have this glory now):
Romans 9:4
"They are Israelites;
theirs the adoption,
the glory, the covenants,
the giving of the law,
the worship,
and the promises."
Paul refers to his glory in the present:
Romans 11:13
"Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I glory in my ministry."
It is God who is glorified in His angels and in His saints.
Yes, I know. You worship the Roman Catholic Church and/or Catholicism.
Whether you continue with the blustering and repetitious spouting of your dogma and perverted history of your cult, as you have agreed it can be called, or whether you bring anything other than your present hardline/hard-headed/I-don’t-care-what-you-think-I’m-an-RC approach to this forum for Christians, as other RCs have in the past, remains to be proven to us all.
Some of us are contending against the likes of you for the Christian faith as established only by Lord Jesus Christ upon Himself and are not granting an unhindered tyrannical usurpation of the freedoms Christians have in Christ alone, or our freedom to post on FR.
The RCC, however many times you may repeat your own religion’s hook points, is not that Church that Jesus founded. Maybe once it was, in some part, but history (Rev 1-3) and the Spirit indicate not anymore.
You knew what that girl was thinking? Wow, I wasn't aware that mind reading was a gift of the Holy Spirit...
More accurately, it was a logical fallacy known as the false analogy.
Now THAT is another Gospel.
God loves everyone. (John 3:16; 1 John 2:2; Romans 5:8). His love in not conditional, it is based only on the fact that God is love and is a God of love (1 John 4:8, 16). God’s love for all of mankind is proved by His mercy by not immediately punishing people for their sins (Romans 3:23; 6:23). God’s love for the world is manifested in the fact that He gives people the opportunity to repent (2 Peter 3:9).
However, God’s love for the world does not mean He will ignore sin. Sin is the choice of self before God and God loves us enough to honor our choice. The most loving act of eternity is described in Romans 5:8, “But God demonstrates His own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” God loves everyone unconditionally in that He shows mercy to everyone by not destroying them immediately because of their sin.
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