Posted on 04/19/2015 1:04:39 PM PDT by NYer
Our faith doesn’t need relics or artifacts.
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Good for you. . . you are blessed. But even Thomas need proof from Jesus himself, who permitted him to put his hands in the nail holes and the wound in His side. Jesus left this cloth behind for a reason. . . and imprinted His wounded and dead body on it as he was resurrected for a reason. Perhaps it was for all those "Thomases" that need that extra bit of help with kickstarting their Faith journeys.
Of course it doesn't. But just like with other miracles, God in his goodness sometimes gives us to them anyway. Why would you want to cast aspersion on a possible gift from God?
The website I provided in the post above yours was created by Mr. Schwortz.
Clearly Christ thought it was important to leave his image behind for us.
Yes, and I don’t recall the other apostles needling Thomas with “Our faith doesn’t need proof”.
Well said.
As I (think I) remember it, there was an exhibition of the Shroud in the 1930's. It was viewed by a young Hans Scholl, and was a factor in his decision to organize the White Rose resistance and actively oppose the Nazi regime. The Shroud made him reflect deeply on the power of Christ to overcome death.
People do respond to outward signs. That's why God provides them.
Thanks for the ping!
Neither did Jesus blame Thomas....
“Our faith doesnt need relics or artifacts.”
That’s funny, because here is what the New Testament said, “after His suffering, He presented Himself to them and GAVE MANY CONVINCING PROOFS that He was alive. (Acts 1:3)
Golly, Jesus GAVE MANY CONVINCING PROOFS.... Why did He do that? Wasn’t Faith enough?
That was in real time, not an artifact of dubious authenticity.
You’re missing the point. Jesus didn’t just say to Thomas that “Hey, I’m standing here, Thomas,” — He said, “Go ahead, feel my wounds, these are proof.”
Take a deep breath, clear your mind, and then acknowledge that I am correct.
And, “an artifact of dubious authenticity”? I’d love to send you my 60-page Powerpoint presentation — what’s your email? Send me a private note.
The “proofs” were himself, not dogs and ponies.
so you are acknowledging Jesus had to use “proofs” , thanks.
No one said it does. It’s a nice-to-have, though.
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