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Are Christians Under the 10 Commandments?
Desiring God ^ | August 7, 2010 | John Piper

Posted on 04/12/2015 11:16:47 AM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: af_vet_1981
Catholics should come to confession as soon as possible after they’ve committed a mortal sin.

"Go and sin no more...

241 posted on 04/17/2015 11:00:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

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All dressed up for the wedding feast on the sea of glass mingled with fire!
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242 posted on 04/17/2015 11:04:30 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Elsie

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Why do you always leave out the most important part of the entire chapter?

Do you not wish for them to go to their synagogue every Sabbath day to learn God’s way?
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243 posted on 04/17/2015 11:26:05 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: RnMomof7

244 posted on 04/17/2015 11:33:04 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Elsie; roamer_1
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>> “To WHOM are they speaking?” <<

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As everywhere else in the entire Bible, they are always speaking to Yehova’s elect; nobody else even matters.

Yehova’s elect, those he intends to save, are as he said, Israel and those that sojourn with her.

Yeshua said plainly in Matthew 15:24

But he answered and said, “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

That is who he was sent to die for, not for those that have no use for him or what he says.

Why do you have so much trouble with that?
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245 posted on 04/17/2015 11:37:25 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: RnMomof7; af_vet_1981

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>> “Scripture is clear ..the SAVED are not under the Ten Commandments or the Noahide laws.” <<

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Scripture is clear, nobody has been saved yet!

Those that endure to the end will be saved. All salvation will be at the Day of Trumpets.

>> “We stand in the completed work of Christ.” <<

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But he made it clear that his work is not completed. Only the sinless sacrifice and the gift of the Holy Spirit are completed, the rest all remains to be done.

Yeshua’s sheep have to be brought to repentance and schooled in his way. Satan has to be cast to Earth to Tribulate the saints. The elect have to be raised at the end of the tribulation, and saved in their incorruptible bodies. The man of sin and his armies have to be crushed. Yeshua has to return to Earth with his elect to do that, and then he has to reign for 1000 years from the throne of David.

How many of those things have you seen happen?

Yeshua assured us in Matthew 5 that Torah remains until the Earth and the heavens have fled from his face. Has that happened yet?

Don’t get in a rush, he has much work to do.
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246 posted on 04/17/2015 11:51:52 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Elsie
Here's the haystack; go for it. I'll accept the fact that you either cannot or WILL not show the applicable scripture.

I find no profit in it. As long as one is willing to believe that one word of YHWH cancels out another, the whole counsel of YHWH cannot be seen.

It should be enough that one is grafted onto Israel, and that Israel is commanded to keep Torah forever.

It should be enough that one's own Master said to do and keep Torah.

One would think that one would question a religion that, purporting to serve YHWH, keeps *none* of what YHWH sanctified forever, and instead, by tradition, keeps pagan holy days and rituals, and leans upon wisdom of men... One might think that such would see the dichotomy and turn to find out why.

There is no greater defense of ignorance than a mind that thinks it already knows.

Unlearn.

247 posted on 04/17/2015 11:58:26 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: pgyanke

Well, other than that sabbath thingy, and the bowing down to statues part...


248 posted on 04/17/2015 12:02:39 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Yeshua assured us in Matthew 5 that Torah remains until the Earth and the heavens have fled from his face. Has that happened yet?

The gospels are RETROSPECTIVE ...they relate the life of Jesus UNDER THE OLD TESTAMENT LAW... in a real sense the gospels are Old Testament scripture ... The New Testament did not begin until Christ fulfilled the OT on the cross

Also remember the gospels record Jesus and the apostles bringing the gospel to the Jews not the gentiles ... The gentiles were never under the ten Commandments

Yes not a jot or tittle of the law will pass away.. God will continue to use it as a schoolmaster to bring people to Christ..

My old friend ...if you are burdened down by the law...look to Christ.. Mat 11;…29"Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS. 30"For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."

Come rest in Christ

249 posted on 04/17/2015 12:05:36 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Elsie
Why IS the sky blue?

Because YHWH commanded it to be so.

250 posted on 04/17/2015 12:05:54 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1
Well, other than that sabbath thingy, and the bowing down to statues part...

There is no greater defense of ignorance than a mind that thinks it already knows.

251 posted on 04/17/2015 12:25:14 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: pgyanke
There is no greater defense of ignorance than a mind that thinks it already knows.

I don't know nuthin'. I just do as YHWH said to do.

252 posted on 04/17/2015 12:30:26 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Why do you always leave out the most important part of the entire chapter?

So you've have something to post.

253 posted on 04/17/2015 7:28:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor
Do you not wish for them to go to their synagogue every Sabbath day to learn God’s way?

Why do you post THIS?

254 posted on 04/17/2015 7:30:37 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor
Yeshua said plainly in Matthew 15:24

But he answered and said, “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

Paul said quite plainly...

Acts 22:21

"Then the Lord said to me, 'Go; I will send you far away to the Gentiles.'"

255 posted on 04/17/2015 7:33:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: roamer_1
There is no greater defense of ignorance than a mind that thinks it already knows.

HMMMmmm...

256 posted on 04/17/2015 7:34:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RnMomof7

Go commit adultery and tell your spouse.

Then come back and tell me what the law is.


257 posted on 04/17/2015 7:35:40 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (When you are inclined to to buy storage boxes, but contractor bags instead.)
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To: Vermont Lt

In this age of The Church, the Bride of Christ, salvation means the Holy Spirit of God, as sent by The Lord Jesus Christ, comes into the dead human spirit within the human soul (behavior mechanism of mind, will, and emotion) and begins the transformation that is New Life. The part of the nature of God is defined in the Ten Commandments, so the behavior of the new born will take on the new nature. But the transition is not absolutely complete at the beginning, so God has assured us that He is faithful and just to forgive us when we acknowledge our failures to live up to that new nature, and restore us to open living in His Spirit. Like the prodigal son however, we must return to Him for the cleansing and acceptance.


258 posted on 04/17/2015 7:41:05 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: RnMomof7
I beg to differ. The Bible says to keep the Commandments or be cast as a liar.

Reading 2 1 Jn 2:1-5a

My children, I am writing this to you
so that you may not commit sin.
But if anyone does sin, we have an Advocate with the Father,
Jesus Christ the righteous one.
He is expiation for our sins,
and not for our sins only but for those of the whole world.
The way we may be sure that we know him is to keep
his commandments.

Those who say, “I know him,” but do not keep his commandments
are liars, and the truth is not in them.

But whoever keeps his word,
the love of God is truly perfected in him.


259 posted on 04/17/2015 7:51:10 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Elsie

Those gentiles were the dispersed lost sheep of the House of Israel, just as Hosea prophesied, and as Paul explained in Romans 7.


260 posted on 04/17/2015 8:41:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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