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To: vladimir998
What it convinces you of is meaningless

Whether the Holy Spirit is impersonal or Personal is meaningless?

That you could be that ignorant of the Bible and presume to then try to convey much of worth from it is meaningless?

The problem with your analogy is that it is no analogy at all. We are not talking about “tri” aspects of Mary for there are none.

Sorry, stay focused if you're going to enter a conversation addressing a specific target: Review post #7 of yours: "Mary" was not where you entered the conversation; instead, the child was: Or do I have to remind you?

...it doesn’t physically gestate within us as a child. -- and then you added -- also focusing on the Holy Spirit and the internal womb: "The Holy Spirit has never been PHYSICALLY carried by a woman in her womb...

So the greater focus of my response to you was to use an analogy addressing where you entered the conversation -- and that was to zero on who was being enfleshed.

Flowing water, vapor and ice are all water...

Yes, as the Holy Spirit, the Father, and the Son are all divine...

And NONE of that has anything to do with Mary’s motherhood.

Again, stay focused upon where you initially entered the convo. You didn't come out talkin' 'bout Mary; you addressed the "gestated child," one being "carried," and the residency of a child (womb).

Your analogy fails again, because vapor is still matter, not Spirit. Vapor molecules are still MOLECULES. That’s physical matter. Spirit is not matter.

It wasn't meant to be a molecule-for-molecule perfect analogy! (You would be the type to take issue with Jesus parables or hyperboles, and would get wrapped up in lecturing Jesus that a camel just wouldn't be able to physically trudge molecule-for-molecule thru the eye of a needle!)

Not His physical body. His mystical body, yes.

(Except His mystical body is made up of physical people. So I guess given what you've said in the post, I have to remind you that this "mystical body" is stretch with billions & billions & billions of molecules!)

10 posted on 03/27/2015 8:01:40 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

“Whether the Holy Spirit is impersonal or Personal is meaningless?”

Where did I EVER SAY THAT? I said this: “What it convinces you of is meaningless.” Do you see what is referred to as meaningless there? “WHAT IT CONVINCES YOU OF IS MEANINGLESS.” Do you see that now?

That was in regard to YOUR STATEMENT: “#1...The Holy Spirit is not an impersonal “it”...and your reductionism to that level basically convinces me you don’t even know Him!!!”

Now, are you going to deal with what I ACTUALLY SAID or are you going to make up things I never said and suggest I said them?

“Sorry, stay focused if you’re going to enter a conversation addressing a specific target:”

What an incredible statement - and terribly hypocritical - considering you just made something up I never said and suggested I said it.

“You didn’t come out talkin’ ‘bout Mary;”

REALLY? Here is what I wrote: “Yes, but it doesn’t physically gestate within us as a child. Thus, Mary is the mother of God because Jesus is God and she gave birth to Him.”

Did you see the word “Thus”? Do you know what that means? My SECOND SENTENCE in the thread mentions Mary and “Thus” indicates the second sentence’s content is directly related to the content of the first. So don’t now tell me some nonsense like “You didn’t come out talkin’ ‘bout Mary;”

Seriously, why are making things up?

“It wasn’t meant to be a molecule-for-molecule perfect analogy!”

Your analogy wasn’t even an analogy of kind. It fails as an analogy. All analogies have limits but yours is completely unworkable.

“(You would be the type to take issue with Jesus parables or hyperboles, and would get wrapped up in lecturing Jesus that a camel just wouldn’t be able to physically trudge molecule-for-molecule thru the eye of a needle!)”

Actually, no. I can see why you would make something up like that since that’s what you’ve been doing so much of lately, however.

“(Except His mystical body is made up of physical people.”

But the defining aspect of our sharing in the mystical body is our soul, not our body. That is how we remain in the mystical body even after the death of our physical body while we await the resurrection. Surely that has occurred to you before hasn’t it?

“So I guess given what you’ve said in the post, I have to remind you that this “mystical body” is stretch with billions & billions & billions of molecules!)”

Actually souls have no molecules. And even though we are talking about people with bodies your point is meaningless since Jesus’ physical body does not change (we do not add to it in any way) and His mystical body has no mass or volume precisely because IT IS MYSTICAL.


11 posted on 03/27/2015 8:39:49 PM PDT by vladimir998
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