2) Sometimes she does answer!
3)You don't have to be a little shepherd child, but it helps.
Posted on 03/25/2015 10:46:15 PM PDT by Steelfish
THIS is your reply?
When you just got SCHOOLED with your LOGIC statement?
2) Sometimes she does answer!
3)You don't have to be a little shepherd child, but it helps.
John saw that city...
Revelation 21:2
I don’t mind being asked questions, but you asked me a question, I answered it, and now you want to continue an inquisition, leading who knows where. Not interested, especially as it pertains to a dispute you had with another poster, not with me.
“Unless you can link to a post where I said you WORSHIPPED her.”
Oh, so you’re saying Catholics don’t worship Mary? That means you must think that many of your fellow Protestant posters here at FR are wrong.
Since I was requested to NOT ping the person "answering" my question, I won't. However, the response did NOT really answer my question...it was avoided.
My question was how Roman Catholics square the dogma of the Immaculate Conception - the idea that Mary was born without a sin nature and remained sinless throughout her life - if she could have refused the angel's announcement that she was to be the mother of the Messiah, God incarnate. IF Mary could have refused, then her supposed sinless conception would have been unnecessary and God would have wasted the exception He made for Mary alone, His plan would have to be revised, her replacement sought out by causing another girl baby to be born "immaculately" with the same heritage and bloodline to fulfill Messianic prophecies - a Plan B. In other words, God's foreknowledge and omniscience would have been foiled. I cannot see how anyone could believe this because it would prove God is NOT who He said He was and we would not be following the true God.
I think we should be able to discuss this topic without causing some to hyperventilate over it. That it was Catholic Freepers who initiated the "rape" rabbit hole seems to have been missed. I know I certainly don't and wouldn't even think of that as the reason why Mary was not asked her permission but instead was announced to her of God's plan. There is no reason in the first place for the mother of the incarnate God to be sinless, only that she was a virgin and of the lineage of David. God knew from before the world began that this would be how the salvation of mankind would proceed. God doesn't make mistakes.
You agree with Muslims in that you profess belief in the God of Abraham. Citing the D-R doesn’t change that. I don’t know why you seem to think it’s a problem in itself.
“Okay... I’ll keep playing until your bedtime, or potty time, or supper or whatever. Just don’t use your parent’s credit cards.”
Wow, you really seem to be getting desperate. The end point is still that you profess to believe in the God of Abraham. And so do Jews. And so do Muslims. And so do all Christians.
Nothing has changed.
Nothing will.
We Christians KNOW whom we serve...The God of Abraham is a Trinity...The physical Creator of Creation was Jesus Christ...We know that...The actual creator is left out of the muzlim god...
The Jews have a special exemption...They are prevented from believing in the Trinity by God...
The muzlim god of Abraham doesn't exist...They were given the truth in the New Testament and rejected it...God did not give them a special exemption...
And yet your religion claims it worships this same (false) god of the Muzlims...
The muzlims believe in a holy spirit...That spirit is the right hand man of God...Higher in rank that any other spirit, human or angel...Almost a duality...And of course they reject Jesus as part of that duality...
All the muzlims are missing to create a muzlim trinity in line with the bible is to find a mediator of their liking or a redeemer of their liking...Or perhaps a mediatrix...
So maybe there is more to this 'Catholic worshiping the same god as the muzlims' that hasn't fully come to light...
I DO?
Step up to the plate and show some evidence; please.
Yes, it is absolutely true that it is his opinion. It doesn’t make what he wrote absolutely true.
Oh, so you’re saying Catholics don’t worship Mary?
You are damningly frustrating!!!
You've got your 'Flit like a butterfly' down pat; but your 'Sting like a bee' needs a LOT more work!
“Step up to the plate and show some evidence; please.”
Do you profess to believe in the God of Abraham?
>It is just one of many examples where roman catholicism has built up Mary to something that she's not accorded in the Word.<
I think the nature of this phenomenon we witness is that a strong antiCatholic bias filters anything perceived to be Catholic so that it must be combated without actually discerning whether it is true or not. It reminds me of some Jews who witnessed the miracles of Jesus but were unable or unwilling to believe and opposed him out of envy.
And in typical catholic fashion....they cannot address the issue as to whether the statement is true or not. Every correction of the false teachings of catholicism is anti-catholic. So they attack the messenger.
I do have to make a correction though. I should have checked the Greek before posting.
Blessed is not an adjective in Luke 1:48. It is a verb. The word is μακαρίζω. As used in Luke it is μακαριοῦσίν. It is Future Indicative Active. As translated in the greek it reads: will count blessed.
This phrase reads as follows in the Greek:
ἰδοὺ γὰρ ἀπὸ τοῦ νῦν μακαριοῦσίν με πᾶσαι αἱ γενεαί.
behold indeed, from henceforth will count blessed me all the generations.
Here is where the confusion for the catholic comes into play.
NASB renders the text as "will count me blessed."
Douay-Rheims renders the text as "shall call me blessed"
NASB more faithfully follows the Greek.
In the Greek texts none of this is capitalized indicating it is not considered a title or someone's name.
Is that you, kid? Still the same old broken record?
Let me know when an adult shows up.
Hoss
“Is that you, kid?”
No, just your teacher.
“Still the same old broken record?”
Nope. Just the truth.
“Let me know when an adult shows up.”
It doesn’t look like there’s going to be one on your end any time soon.
oooh. pithy.
That will no doubt, leave a mark.
You’ve been entertaining, but tiresome. I hope one day you’ll come out of the apostate Cult. I pray you do. Take care.
Hoss
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