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Praying of the Rosary Is NOT Bible-Based Teaching
The Disciplers ^ | 2011 | Ptr. Vince

Posted on 03/24/2015 8:06:07 AM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: rwa265
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.

WORD became flesh...

...not...

WAFER became flesh...

561 posted on 03/25/2015 12:28:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Vermont Lt; Resettozero
Why then do you defend Roman Catholicism against your brothers and sister in Christ? What manner of doctrine have you been taught?

I cannot understand why every day the anti Catholics post a straw man thread and then go to war.

It is simply not Christian.

Those are words of war??? So challenging an elitist church is war, while she is the one with the most history of engaging in physical war against Christians, and others.

► Canons of the Ecumenical Fourth Lateran Council (canon 3), 1215:

Secular authorities, whatever office they may hold, shall be admonished and induced and if necessary compelled by ecclesiastical censure, that as they wish to be esteemed and numbered among the faithful, so for the defense of the faith they ought publicly to take an oath that they will strive in good faith and to the best of their ability to exterminate in the territories subject to their jurisdiction all heretics pointed out by the Church; so that whenever anyone shall have assumed authority, whether spiritual or temporal, let him be bound to confirm this decree by oath.

But if a temporal ruler, after having been requested and admonished by the Church, should neglect to cleanse his territory of this heretical foulness, let him be excommunicated by the metropolitan and the other bishops of the province. If he refuses to make satisfaction within a year, let the matter be made known to the supreme pontiff, that he may declare the ruler’s vassals absolved from their allegiance and may offer the territory to be ruled lay Catholics, who on the extermination of the heretics may possess it without hindrance and preserve it in the purity of faith; the right, however, of the chief ruler is to be respected as long as he offers no obstacle in this matter and permits freedom of action.

The same law is to be observed in regard to those who have no chief rulers (that is, are independent). Catholics who have girded themselves with the cross for the extermination of the heretics, shall enjoy the indulgences and privileges granted to those who go in defense of the Holy Land. (http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/basis/lateran4.asp)

As said in other posts, Frankly, i am amazed at seeing posters whom i have never seen post here on the FR in my quite active engagement over the years, come in here and display their ignorance of what has been going on for years with RCs incessantly posting articles and posts which invite and incite debate, a sample of which post 472 lists, and then whine when countered.

When you have RCs for years using FR as a RC news and apologetics service for their elitist church, you cannot expect evangelicals who are not promoting any one particular "house" to not confront this cultic system.

Until recently there were few Prot articles reproving RC faith, but i can give you a list of RCs doing so against Prot faith, strawmen included. But now some souls we never saw post before on the FR start posting objections. Seems odd.

562 posted on 03/25/2015 12:29:56 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: rwa265
There are many verses that support the teaching that Mary is the mother of God.

There are NO verses that support that RC doctrine. You place your faith in something besides what is expressed clearly in the Bible.

How many more times do you want to dance this same dance? Perhaps it's time you asked another partner?


563 posted on 03/25/2015 12:30:29 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: rwa265

The vast bulk of titles given to Mary by roman catholicism are not in the Word.


564 posted on 03/25/2015 12:30:37 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: StormPrepper
Did he not quote scripture to Jesus?

He sure said something to Joseph!!



565 posted on 03/25/2015 12:32:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper
I have glaring evidence of what I said is true.

Shine that bright light toward me; if you please.

566 posted on 03/25/2015 12:32:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rwa265

How did we get to arguing the Council of Chalcedon all over again?


567 posted on 03/25/2015 12:33:31 PM PDT by Seraphicaviary (St. Michael is gearing up. The angels are on the ready line.)
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To: Elsie
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. WORD became flesh...

...not...

WAFER became flesh...




That helps clarify the debate...a lot. Thanks. R2z
568 posted on 03/25/2015 12:33:49 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Vermont Lt
If we are talking Old Testament God, I would think not. But the New Testament God seems a little more forgiving.

Wrong. If you look at what God put up with so often in the OT, even as the norm, than you can better understand the many descriptions of judgment. Study Ps. 78, 105, 106, Neh. 9; and read Hosea.

But God did provide more grace, and a better atonement, better high priest, better covenant (study the word "better" in Hebrew, KJV). Yet to whomsoever much is given in grace, much is expected and required. Thanks be to God.

569 posted on 03/25/2015 12:35:49 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: StormPrepper
Col 4:16
And when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans; and that ye likewise read the epistle from Laodicea.

Good point!

But; when Rome finally got around to compiling the BIBLE; that church was long gone; and, evidently, all of it's record's; too.


Revelation 3:14-22     New International Version (NIV)

14 “To the angel of the church in Laodicea write:

These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation. 15 I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16 So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth. 17 You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. 18 I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see.

19 Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest and repent. 20 Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.

21 To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne. 22 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”


570 posted on 03/25/2015 12:38:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper
Who knows what you're missing out on:

Wonder no more; Son; wonder no more.


If it HAD been important; Joseph Smith, Junior, would have put it in the JST.

571 posted on 03/25/2015 12:39:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Religion Moderator

Thanks.


572 posted on 03/25/2015 12:40:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper
I missed the GOSPEL part.

Will you repost this with it HIGHLIGHTED?

573 posted on 03/25/2015 12:40:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Resettozero
This is the type of reasoning that has brought you to where you are now. Somewhere, you've taken at least one wrong turn.

I've explained that.

574 posted on 03/25/2015 12:41:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DJ MacWoW
If God had wanted it it would be in the Bible.


575 posted on 03/25/2015 12:43:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper
Haven't you posted this on like 50+ other threads?

Sure have!

And in how many of those have you dismissed it as nothing?

576 posted on 03/25/2015 12:44:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper
1. You're assuming God wanted a "Bible" and forced it's creation.

Well!

It's no WONDER that GOD allowed Joseph to be killed!!!

He didn't obey Him by putting the Laodicea stuff in the JST!!

577 posted on 03/25/2015 12:46:14 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Resettozero
Do most members have this degree of understanding LDS theology or just the elite leaders?

Where can we find an 'OFFICIAL MORMON' teaching website??
Official sites are sites supported by LDS officials unless said official sites are considered unofficial by said officials.
 
At that point such sites are unofficial unless officially referenced for official purposes by officials who can do so officially.
 
This should not be misconstrued as an indication that official sites can be unofficially recognized as official nor should it be implied that unofficial sites cannot contain official information, but are not officially allowed to be offical despite their official contents due the their unofficialness.
 
Official sites will be official and recognized as official by officials of the LDS unless there is an official reason to mark them as unofficial either temporally or permanently, which would make the official content officially unofficial.
 
This is also not to imply that recognized sites, often used on FR by haters and bigots cannot contain official information, it just means that content, despite its official status, is no longer official and should be consider unofficial despite the same information being official on an official site elsewhere.
 
Even then the officialness my be amended due to the use of the unofficial information which may determine the officialness of anything be it official or unofficial depending on how and where it is used officially or unofficially.
I hope this clear things up for the lurkers out there.
The haters tend to make things complicated and confusing when it is all really quite crystal clear.
--Ejonesie22

578 posted on 03/25/2015 12:48:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: HossB86

No need to be snarky. I just wonder if God is omniscient why wouldn’t he KNOW what was in their heart.

I know there is a creator. I know how he wants me to act. I follow his rules. As you might be able to discern I am not Catholic. My wife is. My odd are. So I am around it. I don’t pray to statues. Or beads.

But I know when I pray, God hears me.

But, I don’t tell my catholic relatives their prayers are wasted. (My term, not yours.). In the end, we will know. Then it’s too late.


579 posted on 03/25/2015 12:48:50 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (When you are inclined to to buy storage boxes, but contractor bags instead.)
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To: StormPrepper
An honest search for truth has brought me to where I am now.

I respect your answer.

Let me inform you that your journey is not over.

580 posted on 03/25/2015 12:49:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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