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AFR ^ | 03-07-2011 | Fr. Thomas Hopko

Posted on 03/23/2015 12:23:51 PM PDT by NRx

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Fr. Thomas Hopko: May his memory be eternal!

1 posted on 03/23/2015 12:23:51 PM PDT by NRx
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To: NRx
Read it all? If you could enforce that, you'd get no responders, I fear.

Thanks for posting it, though.

2 posted on 03/23/2015 12:34:28 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Seriously.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

You’re correct. It’s a strident yet wishful request.


3 posted on 03/23/2015 12:40:41 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Mrs. Don-o
O come on! It's not that long.
4 posted on 03/23/2015 12:44:22 PM PDT by NRx
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To: NRx

Salvation is not found in any particular denomination. Salvation is found in Christ.


5 posted on 03/23/2015 12:57:05 PM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: NRx
Well, for me and my old eyes, it's hard to read that much text on a screen, so if I really want to take it all in, I copy it and put it in a word program, jack up the font size, and then print it. That takes an unusual amount of motivation.

And as of right now, my printer isn't working.

It looks like a good article, though. I don't want to discourage you. I respect Hopko.

6 posted on 03/23/2015 12:57:13 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Seriously.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Try depressing the CTRL key and the + key simultaneously to enlarge page font. Multiple times (but pausing between times) to enlarge more.

CTRL key with - (minus key) to decrease font size...repeatedly if needed.

R2z


7 posted on 03/23/2015 1:01:00 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: NRx; Mrs. Don-o

“O come on! It’s not that long.”

Yeah it is, but most of Fr. Hopko’s writings are. Seems to be a characteristic of OCA writers.

The foregoing notwitstanding, as you said, may his memory be eternal!


8 posted on 03/23/2015 1:03:12 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Bad instructions.

While holding down the CTRL key, then press either + or - to change font size.

Apology.


9 posted on 03/23/2015 1:04:33 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Theo

If salvation comes through faith in Christ, the question that must be answered is “who is this Christ that we have faith in?” If we believe in Him, we believe in His teachings. And what are those teachings?

Thomas Jefferson believed in the historical person named Jesus. Yet he denied so many teachings of Jesus, he disregarded the whole of the Bible. Is that having saving faith?

Mormons believe in Jesus. And they believe He is divine. But they also believe they are all divine. And that the Bible is a corrupted work that must be completed and corrected in the Book of Mormon. Is that having saving faith?

Catholics believe that faith comes from grace which is imparted at Baptism even before a child is capable of comprehending that faith, let alone proclaiming it. Just as long as the Baptism is done in the name of the Trinity. But then Catholics also believe that the entirety of faith is mysterious, and that no proclamation can perfectly convey the infitinely deep contemplations in Christ. Is that saving faith?

Antinomianists believe that faith alone saves, and that people are no longer under the law, so no particular action is necessary to signal that the faith is there. But if Christ says, “do this,” and you refuse to do it, can you say you believe in Him?


10 posted on 03/23/2015 1:15:45 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Resettozero

Thank you, R2z.


11 posted on 03/23/2015 1:25:35 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Seriously.)
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To: NRx

Memory eternal!


12 posted on 03/23/2015 1:35:11 PM PDT by Martin Tell (Victrix causa diis placuit sed victa Catoni.)
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To: NRx

Can one be saved who believes salvation is found in this denomination or that denomination? Would that not be denying salvation through Christ?

Rev 1:20 As for the mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand, and the seven golden lampstands, the seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.

Chapters 2 and 3 of the book of Revelation lists those seven churches, so if someone says there is only one church they refute what the Word of God tells us.


13 posted on 03/23/2015 1:41:09 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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>>It is the qahal Israel.<<

One need read no further then that to understand that the views of this organization is in error. No one has superseded Israel.

14 posted on 03/23/2015 1:47:43 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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Does the Russian Orthodox church oppose the Russian mafia running the country?

Does the Russian Orthodox church oppose the brutal oppression of the Russian people?

Does the Russian Orthodox church oppose the massive corruption of the Russian govt/mafia?

Does the Russian Orthodox church oppose the largest human trafficking organization in the world, the Russia govt?

Does the Russian Orthodox church oppose the Russian invasion of Russia’s neighbors and the killing of tens of thousands of people?

Seems to me the Russian Orthodox church is a great part of all that is listed above and therefore in opposition to Jesus Christ.


15 posted on 03/23/2015 1:58:33 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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“Chapters 2 and 3 of the book of Revelation lists those seven churches, so if someone says there is only one church they refute what the Word of God tells us.”

You are confusing local churches with The Church which encompasses the local ones.


16 posted on 03/23/2015 2:08:37 PM PDT by NRx
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Jefferson denied certain Scriptural accounts. Mormons added to Scripture.

The answer to the question in your first sentence is easy: Christ in whom we have faith is the Person described throughout Scripture, without adding or removing anything.


17 posted on 03/23/2015 2:27:09 PM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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So Jesus is confused when He refers to seven churches and describes the differences between each of them? Is Jesus to ask you who this one true church is?

Yea I will stick with what Jesus said and taught, not the carnal stuff you are selling.


18 posted on 03/23/2015 4:41:24 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: NRx

bookmark


19 posted on 03/23/2015 8:17:02 PM PDT by dadfly
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Does the Russian Orthodox church oppose the Russian mafia running the country?

Yes.

Does the Russian Orthodox church oppose the brutal oppression of the Russian people?

Yes.

Does the Russian Orthodox church oppose the massive corruption of the Russian govt/mafia?

Yes.

Does the Russian Orthodox church oppose the largest human trafficking organization in the world, the Russia govt?

Yes. The Church is vocal and absolutely opposed to any human trafficking.

Does the Russian Orthodox church oppose the Russian invasion of Russia’s neighbors and the killing of tens of thousands of people?

Yes.

Seems to me the Russian Orthodox church is a great part of all that is listed above and therefore in opposition to Jesus Christ.

Well, if you are that determined to bear false witness against Russian Orthodox Christians, your opposition to Jesus Christ is well documented. Shame on you.

20 posted on 03/24/2015 8:31:01 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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