**Following the principle of first mention, In Genesis I see the symbols for the sun, moon, and stars in Joseph’s dream, not to mention Israel, who is a man.**
The dream is told, and then interpretted by Jacob (Israel), making it clear who is the sun, moon, and stars. They are all equal in submission to Joseph. Joseph, as himself, is lord over them all.
In Revelation 12, John breaks away from the order of the tribulation events, to tell a history of the Jews, their long fight against Satan, and the promise of a deliverer. The vision is told, but the description is not the same layout as Joseph’s dream. The ‘woman’ is wearing the sun and stars. They make up the chosen and annointed nation of Israel (consisting of the twelve tribes). The moon is ‘under her feet’, which is not a place of honor. The ‘moon’ is more than submissive; it is defeated. In this vision the ‘moon’ is Satan, imo. Do you think that the ‘matriarchs’ are to be under foot?
There is no witness for your interpretation that the woman is specifically Mary. But as the nation of Israel, there are numerous witnesses by the prophets, speaking of the 3 1/2 years, and that it pertains to the nation of Israel as a whole, not to an individual. Ditto for the ‘remnant’.
**And Jacob fled into the country of Syria, and Israel served for a wife, and for a wife he kept sheep. And by a prophet the LORD brought Israel out of Egypt, and by a prophet was he preserved.**
Jacob (’Israel’) entered Egypt with his family, but was buried in Canaan. His descendants left as the nation of Israel, led by the prophet Moses. Likewise, God called the child Jesus out of Egypt.
The Rev. 12 account is not the only story ‘tweaked’ to build a case for Mary being something other than she really is. The denial of Mary having more children is based on interpretting ‘brethern’ and ‘sisters’, as cousins, since in some cases the Greek word can be used for both siblings or cousins. But, context is key to understanding:
In Matthew 13:53-58 (also Mark 6:1-6, and Luke 4:16-30), we find Jesus Christ leaving an area, and coming back “into his own country”, where “had been brought up” (Lk 4:16)(He had already made a name for himself elsewhere, with his teaching and miracles). After teaching in the synagogue in Nazareth, the people said, “Whence hath THIS man this wisdom, and these mighty works? Is not THIS the carpenter’s son? is not HIS mother called Mary? and HIS brethern, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? And HIS sisters, are they not all with us? whence then hath THIS man ALL THESE THINGS? And they were offended in him.......And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.”
His hometown folks couldn’t understand how he could be so DIFFERENT from his siblings, seeing that they had known the whole family for YEARS. They had watched all the kids grow up. WHY did HE turn out so different from the other kids. It didn’t make sense. So much so, they were offended that this hometown boy, this man that had grown up right there, would be displaying such authority.
They were offended.......just like Jacob and Joseph’s brothers were offended that Joseph would seem to place himself in such a high position.
An only child would have had no such comparisons.
“And his brethern therefore said unto him, depart hence, and go into Judea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest.......for neither did his brethern believe in him.” John 7:3,5
**You are forgetting that Miriam bore the Messiah**
You are forgetting that before ‘Miriam’ was, ‘I AM’ had been around a LONG time.
I said: And know that neither Jesus Christ, nor his apostles EVER used the phrase ‘God the Son’, but always used the phrase ‘Son of God’. I believe that they completely understood the Godhead.
You replied: How can you know that ? Which faith community do you belong to ?
It doesn’t matter that there is so much not written about the Lord. He hasn’t changed, and neither has his words, or his doctrine. So it doesn’t matter what church I attend, if all I do is testify to his written words as true. (I’m a Oneness Apostolic)
Revelation is not a history of the Jews. It is prophecy . The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
Revelation, Catholic chapter one, Protestant verses one to three, as authorized, but not authored, by King James
There is no witness for your interpretation that the woman is specifically Mary.
I call the angel Gabriel to the stand. And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be. And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Luke, Catholic chapter one, Protestant verses twenty six to thirty three, as authorized, but not authored, by King James