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To: LearsFool

***Romans 6: “The baptism Paul is talking about in Romans 6 is REAL BAPTISM not RITUAL BAPTISM.” Can you believe that?!***

Of course I can! Otherwise it would read like THIS!

3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into WATER were baptized into his death?

4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into WATER: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Then there is this.
Galatians 2:
20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

The co-joining of the believer WITH CHRIST is often mistaken for water baptism when it is the immersion of the believer into Christ. The same as when PAUL says we have BEEN CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST, yet there are no nail holes in my hands.


43 posted on 03/05/2015 7:24:35 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Why would Paul need to tell people who had been baptized what it was they were baptized in??

It wasn’t the Christians in Rome who invented the “REAL baptism, RITUAL baptism” nonsense. They already knew what baptism was. They didn’t need Paul to say, “Now let me be clear about WHICH baptism I’m talking about here.”

There aren’t two baptisms, only one.


44 posted on 03/05/2015 7:35:23 AM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
The co-joining of the believer WITH CHRIST is often mistaken for water baptism when it is the immersion of the believer into Christ. The same as when PAUL says we have BEEN CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST, yet there are no nail holes in my hands.

Where does that crucifixion take place?

"Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin." - Romans 6:3-6
47 posted on 03/05/2015 7:40:32 AM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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