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The co-joining of the believer WITH CHRIST is often mistaken for water baptism when it is the immersion of the believer into Christ. The same as when PAUL says we have BEEN CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST, yet there are no nail holes in my hands.

Where does that crucifixion take place?

"Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin." - Romans 6:3-6

Then let’s get technical! Which is it? Sprinkling? Pouring? lavering (rubbing water on the skin)? Immersion? Immersion backwards? Immersion forwards? One time? Three times? To follow Christ in baptism? or For remission of sins? Running water? Still water? The old Mikvah rules was running water.
http://www.haydid.org/ronimmer.htm
What about mormons? The same man who codified remission of sin immersion for the Campbellite church also wrote the same for the Mormons.
What about the Aryan JWs?

***Where does that crucifixion take place? ***

The moment you TRULY believe, not superficial belief as Simon the Sorcerer found out. Notice he was baptized but not saved because his heart was not right in that matter.
And notice those baptized DID NOT receive the Holy Spirit as Cornelius did, BEFORE he was baptized.

ACTS 8:
14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:

15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:

16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)

17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.

18 And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles’ hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,

19 Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.

20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.

21 Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God.

Simon the Sorcerer’s faith was as that of the seed that fell in rocky and dry ground.