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To: Phinneous
I've just watched the video. None of the information he gave is new to me, since I first learned it about fifteen years ago in a Discovery Seminar at a university Hillel.

I'd say the speaker commits a few "errors of enthusiasm": placing the Thirty Years War in the Middle Ages, implicating the Germans in the Hundred Years War, identifying Germany with the Hapsburgs and the "Holy Roman Empire" with Rome when the latter was actually Germany and the Hapsburgs were among its rulers, and the claim that no other country besides Germany has been divided. From our own lifetimes we are aware of Vietnam, Korea, China, and even Samoa, though these were all for different reasons. Also, while Nazi Germany broke numerous treaties before the war, it never broke with any of its satellite nations during the war (Italy being only the most important of these). Also the violated treaties were mostly "non-aggression pacts," not actual treaties of alliance like the Pact of Steel or the Axis Pact.

My own very amateurish attempt at understanding Rome and Germany in the Talmud is the Roman Empire and its successor powers uniting with Germany.

But enough of my irreverence. I have a question, Phinneous. Do the rabbis have any tradition of Communism being foretold by the Prophets or CHaZa"L similar to the traditions about Germany? Communism has also been a great plague to the world and is unfortunately not as discredited as Nazism. It's hard to believe there were no warnings about this as well. What complicates the issue here is the fact that the evil of `Amaleq and the evil of Communism claim to be the absolute antitheses of each other, with `Amaleq claiming that Communism is (chas vechalilah!) "Jewish" and the Communists claiming to be ultimately the only alternative to Nazism (G-d forbid!). What is even more fascinating is that while `Amaleq allegedly represents irrationality and spirituality, Communism (the alleged ultimate enemy of the enemies of the Jewish People) worships human reason and wishes to reduce all of reality to matter in motion. There simply must be references to Communism in the ancient Tradition but I've never heard them discussed. Do you know of any?

34 posted on 02/23/2015 7:05:15 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I caught a few “errors of enthusiasm” too and had also first heard of the prophesy at Aish Discovery... a few years after you my G-dly brother. The thrust of the class is spot on.

I haven’t heard of similar phenomena for Communism, though you can probably find some (kosher) Bible Code site that has “Stalin” or “Lenin” “Marx” “Democrats” etc with a correlation.

There is a well known story (in Lubavitch circles) that at the time of Stalin’s death, the chassidm were at a gathering with the Rebbe where he incited them to stand up and shout Hurrah! (double meaning-— “Hurrah!” as we understand it...a cheer, and hu-rah (He is wicked). The rest is untold history. See here:

http://livingjewish.net/2013/02/19/hurrah-hurrah-hu-rah/

And I just looked it up and it happened at a Purim gathering ;)

Lastly, remember that the gematria of Amalek is “safek” Doubt. Amalek always comes along and tries to cool the inspiration of a Torah believer. “Oh, you just came through the split sea and are on your way to hear G-d’s voice ey?” “You are the same guys who were idol-worshiping slaves in Egypt weren’t you now?” [then came Amalek and attacked the Jews in the desert...] Amalek, spiritually, is coldness. They come to dull the enthusiasm and passion for G-d. So in a funny way, Mr. Watchman is right about Amalekites on FR! Ha ha!


35 posted on 02/23/2015 7:35:39 PM PST by Phinneous
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