Posted on 02/14/2015 1:16:14 PM PST by RnMomof7
From the Catechism of the Catholic church....
http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p123a9p6.htm
969 “This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation .... Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix.”510
So let's see if we have this straight now.
Mary is *mediatrix* according to the CCC. Quote and link provided.
But that is not dogma even though it's out of the CCC found on the Vatican.va website. But rather the CCC produced by Vatican 2 is "merely an opinion of some people"?
Is that correct?
I suspect you don’t understand what it means. She is A mediator, not “THE Mediator”.
God tells us there is ONE mediator between God and man.
It's found in the Bible that RC's take credit for their church writing.
We are all “mediators” when we pray for other people...we often ask fellow Christians, including those in heaven (”cloud of witnesses”),to pray for us. This is called the “communion of saints”, which is mentioned in the Apostle’s creed...
Nope. We are intercessors. We are ambassadors for Christ, but nowhere in Scripture are we called mediators.
Doesn’t your church emphasize spiritual warfare?
Sure it does. That's why it stands for the truth as found in Scripture, not any man made opinions that contradict it.
The sword of the Spirit is the Word of God.
Thanks for the heads up and the support in the next post. I am sorry you had to sit through something this intolerable.
Exactly the kind of thing a bigot would say.
Some people have a hard time dealing with the truth.
“It was good enough for Shakespeare....”
“Which that statement itself evidences catholics faith rests in ‘performance of a ritual’ rather than a relationship with Jesus”
Some like to pick and choose what they want to believe in the Bible. Guess what. It’s all the inspired Word of God!
Faithful Catholics don’t look else where. “Catholics” that never believed to start with and want to do it their way instead of God’s way leave all the time. “Oh that mean old Catholic Church, it’s too judgemental and has too many rules. I’m not having any Church tell me what I’m going to do”. ~ Joe Fallen Away Catholic
Perhaps failed Protestants who convert to Roman Catholicism HAVE to imagine everyone who doesn't also convert does so because they are ignorant. It helps them feel better about themselves - makes them feel superior. It's too bad they can't just praise the Lord for every soul that comes to repentance and saving faith in Christ and rejoice with ALL God's children seeing as we will be together for eternity. I guess their elitist and superior attitudes might impress fellow bigots but it won't profit them a bit before Almighty God.
:O( poor fellow
I don't think any would deny it's all God's word....but it is the ‘application’ of what it says that entangles people. But When a people believe ‘their salvation’ rests on taking communion via a ritual act on their part then God's way of Salvation has been derailed.
In most false religions and cults it is often ritual practices, among other things, which assists in keeping people bound, Which is why they are so often used as part of the belief system.
Salvation comes from God alone, we only have to receive what Christ's finished work has accomplished and is sufficient to save ones soul.....because God says it is. Rituals and practices will never save and never did.
...”it won’t profit them a bit before Almighty God”...
I don’t think they seek to please God, rather they seek to please Rome and their leadership. In fact it would be easy to say they have a false escape goat...the catholic church itself... which they can “blame” for telling them how and what to believe. And since the church itself teaches them to play victim I can see they would assume they could lay blame on the church for deceiving them before God.
I’ve heard some catholics speak after they left the catholic church and learned the truth...they were rejicing in the truth but also very hurt the church had deceived them for so many years.
Ma'am; we Bashers POST catholic WRITINGS AND HISTORY.
Which of these do you want us NOT to post any more; for making your chosen religious organization look bad?
I 'know' what a COVENANT is.
I know which one was between GOD and His Chosen People.
If a person, group or organization wants to CHANGE a covenant; it HAS to be agreed upon by both parties involved.
Signed: A Gentile...
She is DEAD; Girl!
Wake up and smell the coffee! (Sorry Mormons...)
You Catholics are TAUGHT that Mary SHARES the mediating job with Jesus.
The Scriptures say that GOD will NOT 'share' His glory.
(Your turn...)
--Huffy_Catholic(And proud of it!!!)
Mary is dead.
You 'catholics' lost track of her early on and NOW want to say she was ASSUMED into Heaven!
It ain't WORKING!!!
What is LEFT OUT OF IT that is absolutely essential to a persons salvation?
“OHhhh!!! that WONDERFUL old Catholic Church, it’s rightly judgmental on non-members and has a LOT of GOOD rules. I’m ESTACTIC over having MY Church tell me what I’m going to do”.
~ Joe Orgasmic_to_the_Max Catholic
Yet you CLING to things like Fatima and magical wafers; too!
It made ME cringe, seeing the rubber band, before things, uh, fell off.
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