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The Church Opposes Science: The Myth of Catholic Irrationality
CERC ^ | February 10, 2015 | CHRISTOPHER KACZOR

Posted on 02/10/2015 2:06:38 PM PST by NYer

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To: vladimir998

Whatever you say vlad! You’re so welcome :-)


41 posted on 02/11/2015 2:22:55 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Thanks for proving me right again. Anti-Catholics are always predictable.


42 posted on 02/11/2015 2:24:06 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Sure!


43 posted on 02/11/2015 2:25:14 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: annalex

Our intellectuals have been under the spell of Voltaire and his ilk for 259 years. Looking back, I found it interesting that the real collision between Church and the “enlightenment” came about during a time when the national monarchs were pushing the Church, the papacy in particular for control. Benedict XIV, one of the most popular of the popes, and a brilliant scholar, did his best to settle church state issues through a series of concordats, and by protecting clerics with enlightened views, but all this came to nought after he died in 1758. From that time thereof fell in. The Jesuits were suppressed, and the intellectual[s hared of the Church came out into the open. The Church was tarred as anti-scientific at the very time it was ceasing its opposition to the new science and cosmology but trying to battle the scientism of shallow thinkers like Voltaire and the atheism of d’Holbach. Within thirty years the disciples of these men would be cutting off the heads of anyone who opposed their ideas, and all in the name of free thought.


44 posted on 02/11/2015 4:15:06 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Catholics, even liberal ones, are creationists. The Darwinism reject either a literal and non-literal interpretation of Genesis, because it saves quite plainly that man is the masterpiece of the One God. They reject God, they reject mankind, they only worship dead matter.


45 posted on 02/11/2015 4:21:57 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: RobbyS
Catholics, even liberal ones, are creationists.

Wrong. "Theistic evolution" isn't creationism.

Plus, by granting science the last word in Biblical exegesis on Genesis while telling science to keep its mouth shut about such scientific impossibilities as the virgin birth, Catholics show themselves as internally inconsistent and hypocritical as well.

46 posted on 02/11/2015 4:24:37 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

And again. Thanks.


47 posted on 02/11/2015 4:44:46 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

You are so welcome vlad!


48 posted on 02/11/2015 4:45:48 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

And once again. When the anti-Catholic does exactly as expected it sure makes everything easier. Thanks.


49 posted on 02/11/2015 4:50:28 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Ha! You have such a good sense of humor!

I’m happy to affirm that you are so very right.


50 posted on 02/11/2015 4:54:38 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: Zionist Conspirator

How is the Virgin Birth “scientifically impossible?” The scientific method may tell us about butterflies but it can tells nothing, with certainty, about when and where that butterfly was hatched.


51 posted on 02/11/2015 5:05:04 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“I’m happy to affirm that you are so very right.”

Yes, by affirming that you’re wrong - which is exactly what you’re doing. I don’t mind.


52 posted on 02/11/2015 5:29:13 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

“Yes, by affirming that you’re wrong - which is exactly what you’re doing. I don’t mind.”

I’m totally affirming whatever you think vlad.


53 posted on 02/11/2015 5:44:22 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“I’m totally affirming whatever you think vlad.”

No, by your completely predictable actions you’re confirming you can’t make an argument.


54 posted on 02/11/2015 6:07:58 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

whatever you think vlad!


55 posted on 02/11/2015 6:14:37 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: RobbyS
Within thirty years the disciples of these men would be cutting off the heads of anyone who opposed their ideas

That's the salient fact. Regrettable as the convictions of Bruno and (especially) Savonarola were, they were internal Catholic ecclesial disputes on theological grounds, where the Church had full jurisdiction. When the French revolution rolled along, it was nothing but organized banditry.

56 posted on 02/11/2015 7:17:49 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

No, no, whatever you show. Which so far, is nothing.


57 posted on 02/11/2015 7:19:09 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Sure


58 posted on 02/11/2015 7:28:36 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: RobbyS
You shouldn't talk about physics if you don't understand it.

Quantum mechanics is a causal theory, one of the most accurate versions of which is indeed a second order differential equation. The uncertainly principle ultimately arrives from a Fourier transform rigorously dependent on that equation. The Uncertainty Principle, so often abused by mystics, does not establish that the universe is a haunted house. Quite the opposite.

59 posted on 02/11/2015 7:38:51 PM PST by FredZarguna (O, Reason not the need.)
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To: vladimir998
Your claim, like the oft repeated claim [read: lie] that the Church did not murder William Tyndale, is nonsense. The Church encouraged such murders to the point that it was an accessory before, during, and after the fact. Its preposterous claims of innocence are are nonsensical as Henry II's protestations that he never instructed anyone to murder Beckett.

By threatening an old man in poor health with torture, the "church" knew perfectly well that it was threatening Galileo with death.

Some were executed (an extremely rare event).

That's murder there, chum. And the "church" was a full participant, in thousands of them.

60 posted on 02/11/2015 7:44:09 PM PST by FredZarguna (O, Reason not the need.)
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