Posted on 01/24/2015 8:33:46 AM PST by RnMomof7
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1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Salvation is by faith alone in Christ alone. Everything else is simply outward proclamation of that faith, the desire to please the God who saved us, and the love for others coming from the Spirit that fills us. It's not I who is on thin ice. It's the person who begins to believe that man's actions in some way begin to merit salvation.
Absolutely agree.
How do you perform an anointing for the sick?
“Go burn some fish hearts and smear the liver on your eyes.”
If an angel of the Lord told me to, I would. You probably would do no differently.
“Perhaps ask the question...why did so many believe her and fear her?”
Why did so many believe and fear Martin Luther when he was inventing and preaching his new gospel?
“Abortion is the taking of life;”
Now show me the verse that condemns it BY NAME. Abortion, that’s the name.
An angel told Tobit to do what he did. You keep ignoring that.
Also, just because a spiritual being is not physical does not mean he cannot relate to the physical world. YHWH had no body and yet is said to have enjoyed the odor of sacrifices.
With Tobit, the odor was not the issue, but Tobit’s willingness to obediently follow instructions.
“I don’t think I have ever seen you tattle on your fellow Catholics when they copy and paste unattributed passages. How come?”
I’ve never seen them do it without attribution. Have you?
“Are you unaware that Augustine’s comments are WAAAAYYY past copyright restrictions and there are numerous places where he is referenced?”
Are you aware that I have caught Protestant anti-Catholics here LYING about where they got things, how they altered quotes, etc.? Check my profile page.
“However, GPH actually DID post the reference of Augustine.”
That’s not the point.
“Are you expecting that they all have to be HTML linked now?”
No, but when someone is clearly quoting something MORE THAN AN ORIGINAL SOURCE, yes.
“It appears that you would rather nitpick over word spelling and footnotes than deal with the actual topics.”
You’re wrong as usual.
Do you realize the Greek word there for "oil" is the same base word used for the olive tree into which Gentiles are grafted and of which Christ is the root? It's the same base word used for the mount of Olives. It's analogus to the anointing of the Holy Spirit. Now what causes the healing.
James 5:15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
If you want to get hung up on some ritual go right ahead. I might caution you however. Rituals are for the pagans.
Amen! It seems the Catholic Church has so engrained that "interpretation" thing because they twist what scripture really says. They put their twist on it and call it "interpretation" and indoctrinate the followers to believe that only the "magisterium" has the ability to "interpret".
LOL. Weak dodge.
So, I’m ill and suffering. I read in James that I should call on an elder of the church for an anointing with oil (you know the kind that comes from olive trees) and a prayer to go with that anointing.
I reach out to CynicalBear, an elder in the church (right? It is a ‘priesthood of all believers’) for that anointing and blessing.
How do you anoint and bless me? What’s the method? You use olive oil, correct?
Walk me through the whole process as laid out in scripture, you know, James 5:13-18. The one from Christ’s organized church.
Once you reply, if ever, we can go on to the necessity of baptism for salvation using just the Bible.
2 Corinthians 2:14-16 Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place. (15) For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish: (16) To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things?But if you really believe demons respond to bad smells, you go ahead and try that next time you run into one of those things. Give it your best shot. Put it on YouTube. I hear tell Red Herring works too. But it's got to be real old for maximum effectiveness. :)
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:And God doesn't have the character flaw of taking back the gifts he gives:
Romans 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.Which only makes sense, because what kind of eternal life is it if "now you have it now you don't?" Hardly qualifies as eternal, like the real thing:
John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.As for the rest of your post, like the saying goes, if all one has is a hammer, everything will look like a nail. Resolve the faith question first, and the rest will make more sense. Until then, there is no point in branching off to other unresolved controversies.
Murder is the word you are looking for.
I agree. The “life for life” is for murder of the unborn child.
John 5:24 simply states what we already know. The Gospel has to be followed, including baptism, to gain eternal life. Christ makes clear that he does nothing, but what he’s seen his Father (God the Father) has done.
Remember the context, FRiend. The Pharisees are on Jesus about both healing and saving on the Sabbath. Are you disputing the absolute need for baptism by authority?
I know the favorite tack is snipping a verse here and there to support some wrong contention. How about a little context for Romans 11:29.
Paul’s scolding the members of the Church for withholding the Gospel from the Jews. Your verse is reference to the promises made to Israel through the Patriarchs.
http://biblehub.com/romans/11.htm
Your exposition on Eph 2:8 is a masterclass example of eisegesis. It is grace/salvation that is a gift from God.
I subscribe to this definition of faith: http://biblehub.com/hebrews/11-1.htm
Heb. 11:1 Now faith is a well-grounded assurance of that for which we hope, and a conviction of the reality of things which we do not see.
Seekers after Christ cannot pick and choose, but must take the Bible as a whole. As schismatic Catholics you’ve lost much and gained much, but it’s a muddle. Back to the Bible and you’ll find the way.
Done. So now we can discuss all that scary sideshow stuff, no?
How do you anoint the sick and give the blessing found in James 5:14?
Remember Christ’s True Church will have Apostles, Prophets, Bishops, Evangelists, Deacons and the authority to baptize in his name. So I’m not limiting our discussion to just the blessing for the sick and anointing with oil.
It’s just a starting point to focus your attention.
So does every Jew and Hebrew reader. I don’t know where he was going with that.
Where's Sola Scriptura in the Bible?
Where is it anywhere prior to Luther?
Not if he didn't give the credit to Jesus I wouldn't. "Test the spirits whether they be of God" and all that.
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