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What Does Jesus Mean When He Says to Some, “I Do Not Know You”?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 01-19-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 01/20/2015 8:37:21 AM PST by Salvation

What Does Jesus Mean When He Says to Some, “I Do Not Know You”?

By: Msgr. Charles Pope

personal-prayer

Every now and then someone will come past my door and request parish services of some sort. Maybe it’s to plan a wedding, a baptism, or a funeral; maybe it’s for money! And then I look at him or her and say, “Who are you?” (since I don’t recognize the person). “Oh, well Father, you don’t know me but my grandmother goes here; this is our family Church.” “Oh, I see, but where do you go to Church?” I usually ask.  The response is usually something like, “Well, you know how it is Father, I don’t get to Church too often … but my mother goes here.”

Well, I’ve got news for you: your Mama’s faith isn’t going to save you. You gotta have your own faith. You have to know Jesus for yourself. There are some things you just can’t borrow. Once, you depended on your mother and ultimately the Church to announce the True Faith to you. But at some point you have to be able to claim the True Faith as your own. Your mother can’t go to Church for you and she can’t believe for you.

On another occasion, a man came up to me in the parking lot of the local food store and began to talk to me as if we were old friends. Perhaps he saw the puzzled look on my face as I awkwardly wondered if I had ever met him. He was mildly offended and said, “Gosh, don’t you know who I am?” “No,” I admitted with some embarrassment. He went on to explain that his family had been one the “pillar” families who had helped build the Church and that I really ought to know who he was. “Do you come to Mass often?” I asked. “No, but I was there at the last funeral, the one for my grandmother, whom YOU buried. Perhaps you know who I am now!” I said, “No. I certainly knew your grandmother, but I can’t say I know you.” “That really hurts Father, ’cause if it hadn’t a been for my family the Church wouldn’t be there.”

Eventually I got the man to admit that he hadn’t been going to Sunday Mass for over 20 years, from the time he graduated from the parish school, and that his only real attendance was for funerals and a few weddings. “Consider this a dress rehearsal,” I said, humorously but with ironic seriousness. “You may be angry and disappointed that I don’t know you, but it will be a lot worse to hear Jesus say ‘I don’t know you.'”

Indeed, one of the judgment scenarios has Jesus declare that he does not “know” some who seek entrance to heaven:

We may wonder how the Lord cannot “know” someone. Is he not omniscient?

Here it helps to understand that the “knowing” as understood in Scripture does not have the modern Western notion of simple intellectual knowing. To “know,” in biblical terms, more richly describes knowing through personal experience. Hence it implies an intimacy, a personal experience of another person, thing, or event. Sometimes the Scriptures use “knowing” as a euphemism for sexual intercourse (Gen 4:17,25; lk 1:34 etc).

Hence the Lord, who does not force us to be in an intimate relationship with Him, is indicating in verses like these that some people seeking entry to Heaven (probably more for its pleasures than for its supreme purpose as a marital union with God) have refused His invitation to intimacy. He does not “know” them because they never wanted to be known by Him in any intimate way. They may have known OF Him, and even spoken and taught of Him. But they did not want HIM. They may have used him for their purposes, but Him they did not want. Jesus stands at the door and knocks; He does not barge in and force Himself on anyone.   

Thus, we must personally and individually accept the Lord’s invitation to enter our lives and transform our hearts. We cannot simply say, “My family built the Church,” or “I went to Catholic School,” or “My mother goes there.”

Remember the story of the wise and foolish virgins? (Matt 25:1-13)  They were waiting for the groom (in those days you waited for the groom, nowadays we wait for the bride) to show up for a wedding. Five were wise and brought extra oil for their lamps, while five were foolish and did not not. But the groom delayed his coming and so the foolish ones said to the wise, “Give us some of your oil.” The wise ones then told the foolish that they could not do this because there was not enough oil for all ten of them.

You see, there are some things you just can’t borrow and some things you just can’t lend. You can’t lend your readiness to meet God to someone else. You can’t borrow someone else’s intimacy with God.

You know what happened in the story. The foolish bridesmaids went off to buy more oil and missed the groom’s arrival and then were not able to enter the wedding feast. In those days, when a wedding feast began, the doors were locked and no one else could enter. When they finally arrived, the groom said that he did not know them. 

The bottom line is that you have to know Jesus for yourself. You can’t borrow your mother’s intimacy, relationship, or readiness. You have to have your own. No one can go to Church for you.  You can’t borrow someone else’s holiness.

There is an Old Gospel hymn that says, “Yes I know Jesus for myself.” It’s not enough to quote the pastor; it’s not enough to say what your mother said. You have to know Him yourself. Do you know Him? I didn’t say, “Do you know about Him.” This is more than intellectual knowing; this is the deep, biblical, experiential knowing. Do you know the Lord Jesus? Have you experienced that He has ministered to you in the Sacraments? Have you heard His voice resounding from the pulpit and in others you meet? Do you know Him? Don’t be satisfied that your mother or grandmother knew Him. You are called to know Him for your very self.

Here are a couple of renditions of the old Gospel classic I mentioned. The first is from the St. James Mass Choir. But then, lo and behold, the second version is sung by a choir from a Polish Girls’ School! See the original and then enjoy a very different version, as the song leaps the Atlantic Ocean and lands in Eastern Europe. What a wonderful world! Despite crossing oceans and cultures, the message remains the same: Yes, I know Jesus for myself.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
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To: Old Yeller

“Read the first 9 chapters in the Book of Romans.”

Great advice, thanks. I’ve started it.


41 posted on 01/20/2015 11:37:28 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: Grateful2God
Good point! Have you ever heard a homily and it seemed like he was talking right to you and then you discuss it with someone who was also there and they look at you like you have grown a horn on your head? I have!

That aside it always makes me laugh when people get worried about going to Reconciliation. There is no way he's going to remember what you said. He's just not. I remember I was at the end of the line. I had already gone in and I was waiting for someone. A priest I know rather well comes out and says do you need me? I said well no father, thanks. I had just not more then 5 minutes before been in the room, face to face. LOL. I didn't want him to feel bad. But I found it funny.

42 posted on 01/20/2015 11:42:15 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: ealgeone

>> To “know,” in biblical terms, usually meant sexual intercourse.
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> Not necessarily....context is your key in knowing what “know” means in a passage.

*sigh* — Yes, context does determine what “to know” means... the point is that when someone says “know, in the biblical sense” they mean sex.


43 posted on 01/20/2015 11:47:19 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Salvation

Just my own opinion.

I can’t read Jesus’ mind, either, but I can see facts in front of my face.

None of the persons I mentioned lead a Christ-like life, nor are they preaching Christ’s Gospel, which is not filled with hate, greed, and envy.


44 posted on 01/20/2015 11:47:31 AM PST by chesley (Obama -- Muslim or dhimmi? And does it matter?)
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To: OneWingedShark
*sigh* — Yes, context does determine what “to know” means... the point is that when someone says “know, in the biblical sense” they mean sex.

I was trying to help keep things in perspective. *sigh*

45 posted on 01/20/2015 12:29:16 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Grateful2God

We have been blessed with a wonderful “new” priest in our parish, recently ordained at the age of 51. He becomes so emotional at the consecration, he often weeps outright. It is so inspiring to witness, I love sitting up front so we can become swept up in the love.

Sadly there are many who complain about the time it takes for him to get through the Mass, as he truly relishes each word and weighs the spiritual significance of each moment. But I find his reverence to be beautiful. Sometimes he will make a self-effacing little joke/apology at the end along the lines of “only 10 minutes over the clock!” Such a shame that word has obviously gotten back to him and makes him have to think about it that way.

I just watch and think “I’ll have what he’s having, please!”


46 posted on 01/20/2015 12:31:15 PM PST by To Hell With Poverty (Ephesians 6:12 becomes more real to me with each news cycle.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I’d say more like *knowing* someone is being intimate with them.

In a marriage relationship, that would be intercourse.

But in a God relationship, it would be personal interaction in experiencing the life of the Holy Spirit in you, which considering it is a spiritual experience, would be more intimate that sex.


47 posted on 01/20/2015 12:33:28 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: defconw

Yes, I like that post-Vatican II song, as well. Two others are “On Eagles Wings” and “Be Not Afraid”. Another is the beautiful, trans-denominational “In Christ Alone”.


48 posted on 01/20/2015 12:39:02 PM PST by Bigg Red (Congress, do your duty and repo his pen and his phone.)
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To: Salvation

I know what you mean. If I know I have met someone before, I will still say my name, as I don’t expect that person to remember it. He might remember that we had met on such-and-such an occasion, but it is a little silly to expect everyone to remember may name, especially since I don’t always remember someone’s name. Not the least bit insulted by it.


49 posted on 01/20/2015 12:42:30 PM PST by Bigg Red (Congress, do your duty and repo his pen and his phone.)
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To: defconw; Salvation; Biggirl

Yes, it is “You Are Mine”. Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14pPevY5sd8


50 posted on 01/20/2015 12:46:31 PM PST by Bigg Red (Congress, do your duty and repo his pen and his phone.)
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To: metmom

> I’d say more like *knowing* someone is being intimate with them.
> In a marriage relationship, that would be intercourse.

Quite true.

> But in a God relationship, it would be personal interaction in experiencing the life of the Holy Spirit in you, which considering it is a spiritual experience, would be more intimate that sex.

Indeed.
The prospect of the heart being laid bare is terrifying, because [to borrow a phrase] “who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?” — I know how I fall very, very short in showing the fruit of the spirit (love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control) and, if I’m honest with myself, it’s probably even worse than I can perceive.

But thank God that Jesus is more powerful than my failings.


51 posted on 01/20/2015 12:49:23 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Salvation

In Matt 25 Jesus’ prophecy of separating the sheep and the goats based solely on how they treated the least of these is about those who know the Lord and those who don’t know the Lord. Both the sheep and the goats call him Lord.

Goats know a form of religion, sheep know Jesus. Knowing Jesus produces a heart like Jesus’ heart and a life of Christ likeness.

Jesus’ people are in relationship with the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, they know each other personally.

John 17, Jesus speaks of those who belong to him being one with him and the Father, as he and the Father are one.

John 17:3 And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.

Many who call him Lord will not enter in to his presence, wasted lives, living nothing like the one they claim to follow. They don’t know Jesus and their lives reflect that, and Jesus doesn’t know them and they are told to depart from him in their end. Truly sad, wasted lives even after hearing the gospel they live only for themselves not for Jesus.


52 posted on 01/20/2015 12:58:52 PM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Amen.

Seems like the closer I get to God, the more aware of the depths of sin in my life and how it taints EVERYTHING.

There’s not a thing I can think of that I’ve ever done that hasn’t had some self-serving motive in it.

Course, if I could, then I’d probably feel proud of it.

Ya just can’t win.


53 posted on 01/20/2015 1:02:46 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
Amen.
Seems like the closer I get to God, the more aware of the depths of sin in my life and how it taints EVERYTHING.

And the more we can/should give grateful thanks to God for Jesus.

There’s not a thing I can think of that I’ve ever done that hasn’t had some self-serving motive in it.

Careful there, just because something benefits you (one interpretation of "self-serving") doesn't mean that it's bad/sinful — take eating as an example; we clearly know that Adam and Eve [could/did] eat before the fall. (This likely means that they got hungry, too.) So eating in and of itself isn't a sin, even though there's an obvious "self-serving" benefit.

[Though eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil obviously was.]

54 posted on 01/20/2015 1:17:25 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: defconw
No matter what the state of the priest's soul, the Sacraments are always valid. You just never know what is taking place in the Infinite at that moment. I agree, there are times when I felt that reading or homily was just for me that day; just what my aching heart or troubled soul needed.

I went to a really nice class on the Mass at a local parish. The instructor spoke about"engagement"and we all looked around. What he meant was how engaged are we at what is taking place? Do we listen, or just hear? Watch, or really see? Those are the times when Jesus speaks to us: when we actively open ourselves to Him!

What you said about Confession really make sense, especially in light of the priest in persona Christi Jesus is there and guides what they say; the priests also pass no judgement... What I find funny sometimes is when you're in the Confessional for awhile, and a line accumulates while you're in there, and the people in line all kind of look at you funny!

55 posted on 01/20/2015 1:27:56 PM PST by Grateful2God (And Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.)
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To: To Hell With Poverty
How beautiful! Padre Pio used to take hours at Mass... That priest of yours sounds like someone special! I know what you mean, I would stay at Mass for as long as Father needed, to say It with such love and reverence; to openly weep, what a blessing!

I remember when, after we received Communion, we were taught to cover our faces. When I got older I realized that the practice was similar to the was Moses had seen God as much as a human could back then, and his face was so full of God's Glory that he had to cover it.

We had quiet time to give thanks afterward. We'll never know until we get to Heaven what a wonderful Gift the Blessed Sacrament is: God bless your new priest, and help him continue to grow in holiness!

God bless you!

56 posted on 01/20/2015 1:42:34 PM PST by Grateful2God (And Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I wasn’t thinking of something like eating.

It’s more what I do and choices I make.

As I’ve been reading Tozer, *The Pursuit of God*, he discusses doing everything for the glory of God and puts a good perspective on it.

I’m not sure what chapter it’s in and whether I’ve done a thread on that chapter yet.


57 posted on 01/20/2015 2:04:15 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: To Hell With Poverty

Outstanding post!


58 posted on 01/20/2015 2:53:14 PM PST by Tax-chick ("A war is not over until the enemy stops fighting." ~ Thomas Sowell)
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To: Grateful2God
I was at a penance service. My favorite priest and I were dead center behind the alter. I confessed my sins and I had a question about a political matter and not to go into the whole thing. We were so on the same page. We must have been up there 20 minutes or more. Talk about strange looks! LOL
59 posted on 01/20/2015 5:21:24 PM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Bigg Red

I like the two Catholic ones. I am not familiar with the other one. I will google it! Thanks


60 posted on 01/20/2015 5:22:25 PM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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