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1 posted on 12/18/2014 7:35:31 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 12/18/2014 7:37:36 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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The guy’s an idiot.Kindness is the manifestation of the Spirit within a Christian.


4 posted on 12/18/2014 7:38:45 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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Absolutely wrong. Kindness comes from a sense of not expecting anything in return. Solely for the sake of helping - nothing else.


5 posted on 12/18/2014 7:38:53 AM PST by Gaffer
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This is an ATTACK on Christianity and the spiritual beliefs of others.

His point is to what, replace all other religions with his religion?

What a complete ass.


6 posted on 12/18/2014 7:39:29 AM PST by Eddie01 (Liberals lie about everything all the time.)
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Where does altruism come from?


9 posted on 12/18/2014 7:41:01 AM PST by oblomov
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Ok, where does altruism come from then?


12 posted on 12/18/2014 7:45:02 AM PST by Boogieman
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Atheists will claim that their sense of right and wrong comes from themselves, and that they don’t need any outside influence. They’re intellectually dishonest, however, if they say they don’t have bad as well as good impulses, because I know I do. I’m a potential monster, but it’s my belief in a higher power that keeps me from being one. True, I am conditioned by society, but I believe that conditioning originates from religious values. That’s probably the point which atheists disagree with.


14 posted on 12/18/2014 7:48:02 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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Nothing new.

Isaiah 14

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Psalm 2 King James Version (KJV)

2 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying,

3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.


15 posted on 12/18/2014 7:48:05 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I survived I-35W through Fort Worth in Rush hour! MILE AND MILES OF CONSTRUCTION!)
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Hard to define “good”...

because what I consider good is considered evil by others, and vice versa.

I guess it comes down to who can force everyone else to accept his definition of “good”, now doesn’t it?


19 posted on 12/18/2014 7:50:31 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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Somebody thinks that these idiots know what “altruism” is?


20 posted on 12/18/2014 7:50:49 AM PST by laweeks
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I often wonder, When the atheist kidnappers of Madalyn Murray O’Hair came for her with the strangling cords, chainsaw and sledge hammers, were her last words...”OH MY GOD!”


22 posted on 12/18/2014 7:51:11 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I survived I-35W through Fort Worth in Rush hour! MILE AND MILES OF CONSTRUCTION!)
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"Kindness comes from altruism, not from seeking divine reward."

"We love because he first loved us." - I John 4:19. It's not a divine reward; it's a human response to divine grace.

Moreover, there is an illogical assumption here, that "good" is measured in percentage terms: by this measure, Mr. Atheist is "good" because he (presumably) helps the poor and doesn't murder anyone, which outweighs any "not good" things he might have done. Practically every religion agrees, from Osiris weighing the heart to the Hindu/Buddhist idea of karma, and so Mr. Atheist is correct in pointing out that there is no need for the divine in those religions.

Every religion, that is, except Christianity. Christianity starts by asserting that perfection is the only acceptable level of goodness, that "good enough" is not good enough, and then asserts the obvious, that by that definition, no one is good enough, that humans are on their own incapable of anything good, meaning anything perfect. Accept that assertion, and Christianity is the only solution.

If the atheist wishes to argue that "good enough" is good enough, then we can have a level-ground debate. Otherwise, Mr. Atheist is arguing against a straw man, the presumption that Christians are commanded by God to do good in order to obtain a divine reward.

28 posted on 12/18/2014 7:57:54 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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Atheism is a faith. It is a religion. It is just a self-centered religion that gives thanks to no one but themselves. They do not have all the answers; they are just arrogant enough to think they do.


37 posted on 12/18/2014 8:07:26 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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kindness "comes from altruism" and not from "seeking divine reward."

Altruism is the sacrifice of one's values as an end in itself. Since life requires the acquirement of values, altruism is anti-life.Altruism does not represent or derive from the principle of benevolence, good will and kindness toward others. Human life has value because humans were created in God's image, and kindness comes from the concern for the value of human life.

42 posted on 12/18/2014 8:12:17 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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The line I’ve heard from atheists most is that when challenged regarding the nature of the universe, and the little bit of scientific method needed to discuss it, they “Don’t want to talk about that.”


43 posted on 12/18/2014 8:12:41 AM PST by onedoug
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my retort is this:

it is cruel to be kind. being kind means that you are able to lie to someone, so that you can inflate their ego, without any expense of your own. it means that without any sort of overreach out of your own comfort zone, however large or small that may be, you extend yourself, your attitude, or any sort of ‘gift’ - physical or otherwise.

Now, if you are ‘moved’, ‘led’, ‘followed your nose/heart’, or just ‘played a hunch’, and did something for somebody that you might not do, any other day or frame of time, THAT is true kindness.

What the atheists are attempting to re-define, in their own dictionary, has already been defined, before this present resurgence of this strange bunch of people, so adamant that they follow no religion, but in fact, have defined themselves as religious!


46 posted on 12/18/2014 8:18:09 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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The ironic thing is that supposed atheists are so “concerned” for your salvation from religion, that they have become one.

An “atheist activist” is just another name for an evangelist.


48 posted on 12/18/2014 8:22:30 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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altruism is selfishness that has an ulterior motive. altruism will not keep food on the table. eventually altruism will stop by the individual.

illinois can ill afford altruism - look at the neighborhood obama is from - there the belief is in altruism - one of obama’s neighbors is louis farrakan.


52 posted on 12/18/2014 8:40:38 AM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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Lucky for our public school educated public ... they don’t know the meaning of the word “altruism.”


53 posted on 12/18/2014 8:53:22 AM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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In reality, atheists are moral parasites, and illogical to boot. They’re moral parasites because they adopt pretty much the Judeo-Christian altruistic ethic in complete contradiction to their proclaimed worldview. The only consistent atheist are sociopaths like Bundy or Dahmer. And the only way they can PROVE there is no God is to be God Himself, everywhere and everywhen simultaneously. They’re therefore merely expressing an illogical opinion when they proclaim there is no God.


54 posted on 12/18/2014 8:55:18 AM PST by afsnco
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