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To: ADSUM; metmom; daniel1212; Iscool; CynicalBear; boatbums

>>so after you are born again, you can go out and commit mortal sins without repentance and you are still saved and granted salavation?<<

I don’t think anyone here believes such nonsense. The statement above shows a lack of knowledge of God’s Grace. It also shows a lack of understanding of the Grace God gives a believer to live their lives in obedience to Him. Christ promised The Comfortor, The Holy Spirit and the promise was fulfilled at Pentecost and continues to this day and days to come.

God also promised He would conform us to the Image of His Son.

You can check this out in Romans chapter 8.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?version=NABRE&search=Romans%208

Faith is an action. We act according to the Object of our faith. This means we walk as Christ walks.

Your statement above is an example of someone who as unrepentant is put out of the assembly of believers after first approaching alone, second with witnesses and then before the assembly if still recalcitrant. And if this person repents he or she is to be restored.

In some cases they never return. As the Apostle John tells us, those who have left us were not of us.

Did I address your antinomian straw man? Such people were condemned in the early church as were Pelagians and semi Pelagians. Of which was condemned at the Council of Orange. Yet Trent embraced semi pelagianism.


872 posted on 12/15/2014 9:11:13 PM PST by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: redleghunter
Your comment: “Faith is an action. We act according to the Object of our faith. This means we walk as Christ walks.”

Well I am glad to hear that. Many seem to feel or express that once they accept Jesus, they will always be saved.

I still don't know why so many feel the need to attack Catholic traditions and teachings.

The Catholic Church is full of saints and sinners, and our main focus is to spread the Word of our Lord so that we may all live a Christ like life and join Him in Heaven. It is difficult to always to the right thing and many fail.

Christian Churches are an offshoot of the Catholic Church that seem to have a different moral core than the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church has followed the teachings of Christ, while other Christian churches accept some of the basics of the Catholic teachings but reject other teachings.

As an example, The Catholic Church honors and venerates The Blessed Mother as a special human without sin and servant and obedient to God. We pray to her to ask for her help and to intercede with her son and our Lord. Yet many here accuse the Catholic Church of raising her to the level of God and accuse us of false worship. They are unwilling to accept the teaching of the Catholic Church.

Living our life as Catholics, we try to follow Christ's path as taught by the Catholic Church. Sometimes we succeed, and sometimes we fail. We voluntarily follow this path and encourage others to do likewise, but living by our moral code and Catholic Church teachings is not forced on anyone (even Catholics). God gave us free will and does not force us to love Him or follow His path.

956 posted on 12/16/2014 5:51:31 AM PST by ADSUM
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To: redleghunter
>>so after you are born again, you can go out and commit mortal sins without repentance and you are still saved and granted salavation?<<

Qualifiers.

We either live or die by them...

993 posted on 12/16/2014 6:44:15 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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