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To: metmom

So after you are born again, you can go out and commit mortal sins without repentance and you are still saved and granted salavation?

What effect does Christ’s judgment have when you die?


863 posted on 12/15/2014 8:30:44 PM PST by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM; metmom; daniel1212; Iscool; CynicalBear; boatbums

>>so after you are born again, you can go out and commit mortal sins without repentance and you are still saved and granted salavation?<<

I don’t think anyone here believes such nonsense. The statement above shows a lack of knowledge of God’s Grace. It also shows a lack of understanding of the Grace God gives a believer to live their lives in obedience to Him. Christ promised The Comfortor, The Holy Spirit and the promise was fulfilled at Pentecost and continues to this day and days to come.

God also promised He would conform us to the Image of His Son.

You can check this out in Romans chapter 8.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?version=NABRE&search=Romans%208

Faith is an action. We act according to the Object of our faith. This means we walk as Christ walks.

Your statement above is an example of someone who as unrepentant is put out of the assembly of believers after first approaching alone, second with witnesses and then before the assembly if still recalcitrant. And if this person repents he or she is to be restored.

In some cases they never return. As the Apostle John tells us, those who have left us were not of us.

Did I address your antinomian straw man? Such people were condemned in the early church as were Pelagians and semi Pelagians. Of which was condemned at the Council of Orange. Yet Trent embraced semi pelagianism.


872 posted on 12/15/2014 9:11:13 PM PST by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: ADSUM; redleghunter
So after you are born again, you can go out and commit mortal sins without repentance and you are still saved and granted salavation?

Wrong on many levels.

For one thing, there is no such thing as a *mortal sin*. The term appears no where in Scripture.

Second, ALL sin lead to death. You break one law, you're guilty of breaking them all. (Out of James, the RC's favorite book of the Bible)

Third, God doesn't let His children get away with having a callous, flippant attitude towards sin. No born again believer who is a new creature in Christ will have it.

Fourth, even if someone doesn't repent of a specific sin, it does not affect his salvation. Does he have to answer for it? Of course, just like we have to answer for everything we do in our lives when we stand before the judgment seat of Christ and give an account to Him.

That sin impedes our relationship with Him, will cost us rewards in heaven, but does not BREAK the relationship. We are still saved.

Anyone who thinks they've accepted Christ and can go out and sin with impunity has not been born again. That kind of attitude is evidence that they are NOT saved.

What effect does Christ’s judgment have when you die?

For rewards. Not for salvation.

886 posted on 12/16/2014 3:41:34 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ADSUM; metmom
What effect does Christ’s judgment have when you die?

Our Judgment as Christians is over with...

1,279 posted on 12/16/2014 7:46:15 PM PST by Iscool (e)
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