To: annalex; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; Gamecock; ...
It is impossible to love Jesus and not venerate His Blessed Mother. Sure it is. Just look what Jesus' reaction was when someone tried it in His presence.
Luke 11:27-28
As he said these things, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts at which you nursed! But he said, Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!
That's what Jesus thinks about adulation of Mary. He threw Himself on that like a bucket of cold water and publicly put both that woman and Mary in their respective places.
230 posted on
12/14/2014 8:03:15 PM PST by
metmom
(...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
To: metmom
LJC :Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!
metmom : That's what Jesus thinks about adulation of Mary. He threw Himself on that like a bucket of cold water and publicly put both that woman and Mary in their respective places.
Without dissing His mom in anyway.
To: metmom; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; Gamecock
Right: the woman loved Jesus and she venerated Mary. Did Jesus stop her? No, He explain how she should venerate His Blessed Mother: for Mary's hearing Him, the Word, and keeping Him and His word.
I have a whole article on this:
Veneration of Mary in Luke 11:27-28
240 posted on
12/14/2014 8:17:46 PM PST by
annalex
(fear them not)
To: metmom; annalex
Sure it is. Just look what Jesus' reaction was when someone tried it in His presence. Luke 11:27-28 That's what Jesus thinks about adulation of Mary. He threw Himself on that like a bucket of cold water and publicly put both that woman and Mary in their respective places.
As he said these things, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts at which you nursed! But he said, Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!
The woman was actually complimenting Jesus, not Mary. In effect, she was saying "Your mother is so lucky to have a son like You!" Clearly, this is a compliment directed at Jesus. If a neighbor lady were to say this to you, obviously you would take it as a compliment directed at you, not your mother.
Englishman's Greek Concordance shows that the word for "rather" here, menounge (Strong's word #3304) is used four times in the NT: Lk 11:28, Rom 9:20, 10:18, and Phil 3:8. Apparently, it can mean a contrast; however, this contrast need not negate what came before it. A clear example is Phil 3:8. In Phil 3:7 Paul says (KJV):
But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
He goes on to write (menounge in blue):
Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord . . .
Other translations: "Indeed" (RSV) "What is more" (NIV) "Not only that" (Jerusalem) "I would say more" (NEB) "More than that" (NRSV / NASB).
Clearly, the word in this passage does not negate what came before, since the comparison is between "gainful things" and "all things." The second didn't undermine the first, but merely expanded upon it, making the category even broader. Likewise in Lk 11:27-28.
My New Bible Commentary (ed. D. Guthrie, rev. 1970, Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans, p. 906), a reputable Protestant source, states:
The woman's rather sentimental benediction on Jesus' mother meant, 'If only I had such a son as this.' Jesus' reply is that something else matters far more, to hear the message He proclaimed and to obey it (cf. 6:46-49).
This verse has no bearing whatever on the veneration of Mary, let alone undermining it. One must understand the Jewish "literary technique" of comparison and contrast, and it is improper to regard all instances of that in terms of an "either/or" approach,
301 posted on
12/15/2014 4:34:18 AM PST by
NYer
("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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