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To: metmom
I don't, I was just pointing out that Mary could certainly have been protected from sin as was the FULLY HUMAN, CHRIST. So do you really think that Jesus was protected from committing sin????

unless you don't think that he fully accepted the trials and tribulations of being a human..yes, I believe that His Father protected Him from bowing to temptation...He was tempted you know.

1,518 posted on 12/17/2014 4:14:50 PM PST by terycarl
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To: terycarl; metmom; Salvation; Mrs. Don-o; daniel1212; CynicalBear; Elsie
I don't, I was just pointing out that Mary could certainly have been protected from sin as was the FULLY HUMAN, CHRIST.

I'm still perplexed by this.

Catholicism's own apologists admit no scriptural support for this nor any support from the ECFs. These can be verified on the catholicencyclopediaonline.

It sounds like the catholic is working on a lot of "ifing" and "couldas". Something like this...."if Christ was sinless, couldn't God....".

To be honest God is capable of doing what He wills. However, He doesn't contradict Himself or His Word.

The evidence we do have in the Word completely goes against the immaculate conception.

So again I ask....what is the catholic appealing to?

Teaching learned in childhood?

They've always done it this way and it's hard to break the "habit"? (no pun there)

1,519 posted on 12/17/2014 4:23:56 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: terycarl
I believe that His Father protected Him from bowing to temptation...He was tempted you know.

There is no indication that the Father protected Jesus from sin or temptation.

Jesus was tempted in all the ways humans are. He was not protected...He rose above temptation all on His own.

This was His test of Godhead.

He proved He was God by individually defeating temptation.

He needed nothing from God or Mary.

This was His moment!

1,521 posted on 12/17/2014 4:32:58 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: terycarl
unless you don't think that he fully accepted the trials and tribulations of being a human..yes, I believe that His Father protected Him from bowing to temptation...He was tempted you know.

Then Scripture was not accurate in stating that He was tempted in every way, just as we are and yet was without sin.

No, God did not protect Him. Jesus needed to face those same temptations so that He could overcome them.

1,579 posted on 12/17/2014 7:07:40 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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