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Sorry, Fido. Pope Francis did NOT say our pets are going to heaven
RNS ^ | December 12, 2014 | David Gibson

Posted on 12/13/2014 2:52:13 PM PST by NYer

(RNS) When Pope Francis recently sought to comfort a distraught boy whose dog had died, the pontiff took the sort of pastoral approach he is famous for — telling the youngster not to worry, that he would one day see his pet in heaven.

“Paradise is open to all of God’s creatures,” Francis said reassuringly.

Pope Francis greets a crowd on his way to a meeting with cardinals at the Vatican on Feb. 21, 2014. RNS photo by David Gibson

Pope Francis greets a crowd on his way to a meeting with cardinals at the Vatican on Feb. 21, 2014. RNS photo by David Gibson

It was a sparkling moment on a rainy November day, and the setting in St. Peter’s Square only burnished Francis’ reputation as a kindly “people’s pope.” The story naturally lit up social media, became instant promotional material for vegetarians and animal rights groups, and on Friday even made it to the front page of The New York Times.

There’s only one problem: apparently none of it ever happened.

Yes, a version of that quotation was uttered by a pope, but it was said decades ago by Paul VI, who died in 1978. There is no evidence that Francis repeated the words during his public audience on Nov. 26, as has been widely reported, nor was there was a boy mourning his dead dog.

So how could such a fable so quickly become taken as fact?

Part of the answer may be the topic of the pope’s talk to the crowd that day, which centered on the End Times and the transformation of all creation into a “new heaven” and a “new earth.” Citing St. Paul in the New Testament, Francis said that is not “the annihilation of the cosmos and of everything around us, but the bringing of all things into the fullness of being.”

The trail of digital bread crumbs then appears to lead to an Italian news report that extended Francis’ discussion of a renewed creation to the question of whether animals too will go to heaven.

“One day we will see our pets in the eternity of Christ,” the report quoted Paul VI as telling a disconsolate boy years ago.

The story was titled, somewhat misleadingly: “Paradise for animals? The Pope doesn’t rule it out.” It wasn’t clear which pope the writer meant, however.

The next day, Nov. 27, a story in the Italian daily Corriere della Sera by veteran Vaticanista Gian Guido Vecchi pushed the headline further: “The Pope and pets: “Paradise is open to all creatures.”

Vecchi faithfully recounted the pope’s talk about a new creation, and also cited Paul VI’s remark.

But the headline put those words in Francis’ mouth, and that became the story.

The Italian version of the Huffington Post picked it up next and ran an article quoting Francis as saying “We will go to heaven with the animals” and contending that the pope was quoting St. Paul – not Pope Paul – as making that statement to console a boy who lost his dog. (That story, by the way, is nowhere in the Bible.)

The urban legend became unstoppable a week later when it was translated into English and picked up by the British press, which cited St. Paul as saying that “One day we will see our animals again in (the) eternity of Christ,” while it has Francis adding the phrase: “Paradise is open to all God’s creatures.”

Fueling the meme was the fact that Francis was photographed accepting a gift of two donkeys from a company promoting the use of donkey milk for infants allergic to cow’s milk – and Francis said his own mother gave him donkey’s milk as a baby.

Social media and other media outlets then picked up the story, further conflating the statements and the chronology. It became a hot mess of a story that was also sparking another theological debate by a pope who was known for prompting controversy.


The New York Times was the biggest of several outlets relating an apparently apocryphal tale about pets, paradise, and Pope Francis.

When The New York Times went with the story, along with input from ethicists and theologians, it became gospel truth.

Television programs discussed the pope’s theological breakthrough, news outlets created photo galleries of popes with cute animals, and others used it as a jumping off point to discuss what other religions think about animals and the afterlife. At America magazine, the Rev. James Martin wrote an essay discussing the theological implications of Francis’ statements and what level of authority they may have. It was all very interesting and illuminating, but based on a misunderstanding.

A number of factors probably contributed to this journalistic train wreck:

In most accounts, Francis’ comments were also set against statements by his predecessor, Benedict XVI, who insisted that animals did not have souls. That apparent contrast fit a common narrative pitting the more conservative Benedict against the ostensibly liberal Francis.

That may be true in some areas, but probably not when it comes to animals.

Adding insult to injury, the Times article cited St. John Paul II as saying in 1990 that animals have souls and are “as near to God as men are.” But that, too, was a misquote, as media critic Dawn Eden explained at the website GetReligion.

On the other hand, there should have been warnings signs: Francis has frowned at the modern tendency to favor pets over people, and he has criticized the vast amounts of money spent by wealthy societies on animals even as children go hungry.

In addition, the pope’s huge popularity has led to at least one other instance of myth-making: news reports last year said that Francis was sneaking out of the Vatican at night to feed the homeless around Rome.

The pope personally debunked that rumor in an interview last March, saying the idea “has never crossed my mind” and that “depicting the pope to be a sort of superman, a type of star, seems offensive to me.”

Maybe he’ll have to give another interview to deflate this latest story, and to offer his real thoughts on pets and paradise.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: heaven; mistranslated; pets
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To: 82nd Bragger; spacejunkie2001

>> “If I possess a spiritual body, what need would I have for a home, since I’m not subject to the elements?” <<

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Obviously!

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The chapter is about the Millennial reign, where there will still be some mortals, not the New Jerusalem.


61 posted on 12/13/2014 7:20:04 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: 82nd Bragger

Read the last chapters of Revelation.

The new heaven/new Earth are for those resurrected to eternal life.

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62 posted on 12/13/2014 7:31:28 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: MUDDOG

YES!!! It was one of the best and most warm-hearted: with by Earl Hamner, Jr. who wrote and narrated “The Waltons.”

I was reading my way through and that occurred to me, too! I saw your post, and had to reply!

I believe Heaven is where we’ll see God and at last find perfect happiness. But if God wouldn’t mind squeezing in my little rescue, through which He’s given me so much joy, I wouldn’t complain...

Blessed be the Lord our God in all His creations!


63 posted on 12/13/2014 8:25:59 PM PST by Grateful2God (preastat fides supplementum sensuum defectui)
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To: babygene

No, instead we learned the truth: Pope Paul VI said it. That’s right. The man who gave us Vatican II.

And guess who just beatified Pope Paul VI?


64 posted on 12/13/2014 8:32:16 PM PST by piusv
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To: Sacajaweau

No, he’s become fossil fuel! : )

A human being can’t help but wonder why God in His Wisdom did create some things, though I believe personally that when we pass into the next world, we’ll learn things we wanted to know on earth.

May we all see one another in Heaven one day! Good bless you!


65 posted on 12/13/2014 8:37:49 PM PST by Grateful2God (preastat fides supplementum sensuum defectui)
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To: BipolarBob

Pets, no matter how dearly we love them, don’t have immortal souls and free will as we do. I wish i knew what will happen to my little guy when (shudder) he dies.

One thing I do look forward to, if I make it to Heaven, is meeting all my brothers and sisters of good will there. The Church doesn’t teach that Heaven is reserved simply for Catholics, you know!

Again, may we all meet together in Heaven! God bless you!


67 posted on 12/13/2014 8:51:33 PM PST by Grateful2God (preastat fides supplementum sensuum defectui)
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To: defconw
BTW, prayers warriors our grand-nephew, one of the Marines is leaving for deployment. We know not where. Thanks for the prayers in advance.

You have it with all my heart! God bless our Military, and our country!

68 posted on 12/13/2014 9:00:51 PM PST by Grateful2God (preastat fides supplementum sensuum defectui)
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To: 82nd Bragger
My question to all Christians is this - Exactly who will reside on the NEW earth?

St. John speaks of the New Heaven and the New Earth in the Book of Revelation, as well. It is a joyous place, made for God once again to live among His people- meaning all who love Him. And there shall be no more death... and God Will wipe away all tears from our eyes!

69 posted on 12/13/2014 9:28:11 PM PST by Grateful2God (preastat fides supplementum sensuum defectui)
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To: 82nd Bragger
...to provide clothing for Adam and Eve (an act of compassion by Him).

What a gentle and loving thing for Our Father to do when His children had sinned! A little thing, often ignored in the light of Our Father's Old Testament swift justice, but so fatherly nonetheless.

70 posted on 12/13/2014 9:43:11 PM PST by Grateful2God (preastat fides supplementum sensuum defectui)
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To: bimboeruption

Thank-you and God Bless!


71 posted on 12/14/2014 2:40:13 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: Grateful2God

AMEN!

Mananatha! Come Lord Jesus!


72 posted on 12/14/2014 2:41:11 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: NYer

I am unaware of anything that says pets/animals will be available to us in Heaven. God made us in His image and requires us to acknowledge Him in order to get on the reservation list. Being God, He can do anything so we really don’t know. Since Heaven will be so great that we really won’t miss our pets (won’t even be married to a person we stayed married to for all our adult years on Earth), I really don’t see why there’s all the flap.


73 posted on 12/14/2014 3:30:02 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: defconw

Christ our True God, who loves mankind, look down with mercy and compassion upon every soldier who is facing a daily struggle with war, aggression and terrorism. Each one desires to live before You, and be ever protected by Your Right Hand. Preserve them, we humbly pray, and watch over them every given hour. Guide their steps, give wisdom and discernment to all who are in leadership, that Your will may prevail, and that they may return safely to their homes and loved ones.

We beg You to hear the cry coming from our hearts, dear Lord Jesus Christ. We know that we are surrounded by many dangers. We are frightened as destruction; pain and death seem so near. We hurt with those who are hurting, and grieve with those who grieve, whether on the battlefield or in their homes.

Draw us closer to You, we pray. Grant to us and to each soldier the desire to say as the Psalmist did, “I will say of the Lord, ‘He is my refuge and my fortress; My God, in Him I will trust.’ He shall cover you with His feathers, and under His wings you shall take refuge.” (Psalm 91)

In Your righteousness forgive them as they continue in the defense of our beloved country. Watch over those whom they love, their wives, their children, relatives, and friends, as well as all civil authorities. May Your guiding Spirit be with those who govern us. Bless our country America, our allies, and all those who love freedom, peace, and good will among all men.

May Your mercy be ever granted to us, for without fear but with love, humility, and obedience we to turn to You, that we may be strengthened, stand firm, and live.

Through the prayers of our Holy Fathers, Lord Jesus Christ our God, have mercy on us and save us. Amen.


74 posted on 12/14/2014 5:05:47 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: trebb
I am unaware of anything that says pets/animals will be available to us in Heaven. God made us in His image and requires us to acknowledge Him in order to get on the reservation list. Being God, He can do anything so we really don’t know. Since Heaven will be so great that we really won’t miss our pets (won’t even be married to a person we stayed married to for all our adult years on Earth), I really don’t see why there’s all the flap.

You are absolutely right. The "flap" comes about because many lonely people have brought an animal into their life for companionship. As such, "they" can't imagine eternity without their furry friends. Many of these individuals have no understanding of scripture; they are secularists.

75 posted on 12/14/2014 5:06:29 AM PST by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: Kolokotronis

Thank You, truly. They celebrated his twin daughters first Christmas before he left.


76 posted on 12/14/2014 6:46:49 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Grateful2God

Thanks.


77 posted on 12/14/2014 6:47:29 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Grateful2God
The Hunt (The Twilight Zone)

Outstanding episode! Starring Arthur Hunnicutt, a familiar character actor on '50s and '60s TV.

Interesting about the writer. I didn't know he was involved with The Waltons.

78 posted on 12/14/2014 7:30:29 AM PST by MUDDOG
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To: trebb

Would it surprise you that this kid settles the issue once and for all, via that sweet and true story called “Heaven Is For Real”, which also has a children’s version of that book and it does show in beautiful painting style of animals being in the Kingdom.

http://heavenisforreal.net/


79 posted on 12/14/2014 9:22:08 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: NYer

Well as the old saying goes, “even a broken clock is right twice a day.”


80 posted on 12/14/2014 9:26:59 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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