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To: MamaB; Elsie

“It is so simple that a child understands it.”

Okay, let’s test your theory. Ask Elsie if there are any souls in Heaven right now. Or are all of the dead believers in Christ “asleep” until the resurrection.

I’m betting no Protestant will ask - especially any Protestant who actually disagrees with Elsie. The lock-step anti-Catholicism among FR Protestants must be maintained after all.


2,371 posted on 12/17/2014 11:25:38 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998; Elsie; MamaB
>>Ask Elsie if there are any souls in Heaven right now.<<

Which heaven do you refer to?

2 Corinthians 12:3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 4 How that he was caught up into paradise (Paradeison), and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

The word used for where people go when they die is Paradeison. But ouranois is used for where God is in heaven. They are obviously not the same place. Now, so that we can better understand your question or what you want us to explain would you please tell us which place you are talking about? And while you are at it please show the scripture you use to show that people are in ouranois (heaven) rather than in Paradeison (paradise).

I can find reference where people who have died are in Paradeison but I don't find where they go to ouranois. Until you do that your insistence on some sort of explanation or answer to your question is not possible. If you could clarify that would help a lot.

2,382 posted on 12/17/2014 1:02:24 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: vladimir998
The lock-step anti-Catholicism among FR Protestants must be maintained after all.

Don't you have a pope to bitch about?

2,387 posted on 12/17/2014 1:07:35 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998; MamaB; Elsie
Okay, let’s test your theory. Ask Elsie if there are any souls in Heaven right now. Or are all of the dead believers in Christ “asleep” until the resurrection.

I’m betting no Protestant will ask - especially any Protestant who actually disagrees with Elsie.

Why would we ask. We're not the ones who want to know.

The lock-step anti-Catholicism among FR Protestants must be maintained after all.

Whatever happened to the *every man his own pope* and *30,000 different interpretations of Scripture* memes?

Did you find that they were not effective after all?

2,419 posted on 12/17/2014 2:39:28 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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