Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

Crisis Magazine ^ | November 24, 2014 | DENNIS BONNETTE

[Resettozero]

I am a legitimate Catholic theologian, and I am also rational. You are wrong.

Thank you and good to see you again verga!

But we already know there are plenty of RCs who believe Genesis is accurate in every detail, including the parts that are hard to understand for us dumbed-down products of public southern education.

Many non-Catholics also believe that parts of Genesis are conflicted and "storified" for passing down as oral history.

Okay, verga, I'm ready...

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[cornfedcowboy]

Yep. That’s them in that picture. I’d recognize them anywhere. That be them.

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Those are my relatives. I kind of look like them actually.

[CityCenter]

Not true at all.

[editor-surveyor]

>> “I think it is reasonable to believe that Adam was not in the sixth day creation but later.” <<

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That sounds like catholic talk for sure!

Reasonable to disbelieve God?
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[xone]

Thank you for documenting again the hazards of Sola Scriptura.

Yeah, that was obviously the problem.

[terycarl]

One can either believe our creator, or believe the impossible. The catholic church tries to straddle the fence, and the gap is bigger than the Grand Canyon

the Catholic Church has believed in, and written about Adam and Eve 1,600 years before there were Protestants....

[adorno]

Adam was actually a gorilla. And he did the "deed" with a bonobo chimp, and from that "union", we got Adam. Which one of the apes came up with the name "Adam", remains a mystery to this day.

Mr gorilla did the "deed" again, but, with a monkey, and from that, we got Eve.

Evolution 101.

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[Gamecock]

Jesus believed in them. I don’t see why I should do otherwise.

[CatherineofAragon]

"No legitimate Catholic theologian, rational Catholic, or Church dogma accepts a literal interpretation of the Genesis stories."

If this includes you, I'm sorry for you.

[verga]

The incestuous relationship between Lot and his daughters occurred more than 400 years before Noah was given the law, including the laws forbidding incest and polygamy.

Lot lived after Noah. Noah is Genesis 5. Lot's story begins in Genesis 12, (After his birth is mentioned in Genesis 11.)

Perhaps you mean Moses. But the law did not forbid polygamy either. David and Solomon both had multiple wives and found favor with the Lord for quite a while.

[Resettozero]

Thank you for documenting again the hazards of Sola Scriptura.

Now, verga, I WAS glad to see you until you picked out one obviously error-filled post just to make this (invalid) point.

That's akin to running over an already-wounded dog who is suffering in the roadway.

Bad form.

[editor-surveyor]

Followers of Yeshua believed “The Way” (or “The Teaching” if you prefer) that catholics reject for 300 years before the catholic church existed.

Read Irenaeus “Against Heresies,” where he denounced all that the papists embrace.
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[LS]

It’s like Noah and the flood, or the existence of Satan. How can any so-called believer doubt these if they believe in Jesus? He believed in these. He referenced Noah. He referenced Satan. He referenced Moses. He referenced the Second Coming. I don’t know how it all worked out, but I wasn’t there. He was.

[verga]

Asimov was Jewish by birth but described himself as agnostic and later as an atheist.

On the other hand Arthur C. Clarke, who actually wrote 2001 A space Odyssey and it's sequels, described himself as a Secular Humanist.

[CatherineofAragon]

"Well, we’re in good company, with Jesus Christ and the apostles."

Yes.

If Genesis isn't factually true, when did the Fall happen? When did sin enter the world? What event or set of circumstances triggered it? Toss out Genesis, and you toss out the need for redemption, which is a basic tenet of our faith, and the reason Jesus died on the cross.

More than once during His ministry, Jesus affirmed the factual truth of Genesis. He referred to the first man and the first woman. If not Adam and Eve, as His own word related, who then was He referring to?

Bill and Cheryl?

Jorge and Rosita?

Rasheem and Ta'Quanda?

[sasportas]

You Papists never pass up a chance to bash Protestants and Sola Scriptura. (Assuming the person you responded to is in fact a Protestant, maybe he is a Papist?)

Can’t speak for him but the poster obviously must have meant to say Lot not Noah. A simple case of not thinking through what he is posting. Along the liens of typos, etc.

[ravenwolf]

That sounds like catholic talk for sure!

Reasonable to disbelieve God?

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No kidding?

[Arthur McGowan]

Did Asimov have any connection with 2001 at all?

I saw 2001 at age 14 in 1967. Not a sci-fi aficionado.

[verga]

You got it right, thank you.

And one of the worst mistakes ever made was to yank the Bible out of the classroom of public schools.

[Resettozero]

Followers of Yeshua believed “The Way” (or “The Teaching” if you prefer) that catholics reject for 300 years before the catholic church existed. Read Irenaeus “Against Heresies,” where he denounced all that the papists embrace.

Yes. But the RCC posters here will not admit it is true. Some here on FR are more oriented to defending their very-flawed RCC than they seem to be in learning and confessing what is really true

And I too plan to look up this writing by Irenaeus and read it (again).