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Where Fundamentalists Are Right: 5 Things Catholics Need to Take Seriously Again
ChurchPOP ^ | 2014 | Brantly Millegan

Posted on 11/14/2014 1:01:10 PM PST by millegan

The term “fundamentalist” is a pejorative term today, used to label someone the speaker believes is an irrational religious extremist of some kind.

But a hundred years ago, the term was taken as a badge of honor by theologically conservative Protestants to distinguish themselves from liberal Protestantism. While liberal Protestants in mainline denominations were denying basic Christian teachings like the authority of the Bible and the bodily resurrection of Jesus, conservative Protestants called for going back to the “fundamentals” of the faith – hence the term.

There are obviously a lot of issues on which Catholics and fundamentalists disagree, but there are a few important issues for which fundamentalists take a lot of heat in our culture that Catholics actually agree with them on – or at least are supposed to. Unfortunately, in my experience many Catholics – afraid to have themselves labeled a “fundamentalist” – can throw the baby out with the bath water and end up denying beliefs espoused by fundamentalists that are also taught by the Catholic Church.

Here are 5 things that are already present in the Catholic faith, but that Catholics could learn from their fundamentalist brothers and sisters to take more seriously:

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TOPICS: Catholic; Ecumenism; Evangelical Christian; Theology
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To: dsc

I do not know you so I will not say what I really think. My mom taught me better but I will say you do not have a clue as to what you said. I have known this man since 1983 and he is one of the most Godly men and most intelligent ones I have ever known. Do not talk about someone you do not know. RMs if I said something you do not like, let me know. I simply do not like people who say stupid things.


141 posted on 11/16/2014 8:23:50 AM PST by MamaB
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To: ealgeone

Amen!


142 posted on 11/16/2014 8:31:20 AM PST by MamaB
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To: dsc; metmom

Wow! That was a sad, sad commentary on Catholicism.


143 posted on 11/16/2014 8:31:44 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: dsc; redleghunter
>>Nothing God has communicated is contrary to Scripture;<<

Well there goes the eating of real blood taught by Catholicism.

144 posted on 11/16/2014 8:38:21 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: dsc; Elsie; metmom; boatbums; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; CynicalBear; mitch5501; ...
just rewrite history to suit themselves

Which is just what Rome did - and which you denied when i brought it up!

Ever notice how some people, no one on FR of course, but some people, just set themselves up as ersatz authorities and start issuing proclamations?

Obviously inferring me, but which once again, is what you had done, making and affirming an entirely subjective claim that you could not even substantiate, and would actually require omniscience.

Ever notice how many civilians, when they interact with the military, just assume that they are equivalent to officer rank?

Which again is what you did, asserting what could not be substantiated, and then even what was disproved by documentation. But at least you one time admitted that you "misspoke," political speech for making a false claim.

But as i said, if you want to get into this then do a group PM or even better, the "Smoky Backroom" if you want, as forum rules, forbids carrying debates from thread to thread.

I brought up your lack of credibility as you made a personal judgment ("I have never seen"), and thus the impossibility of showing you otherwise, and that is where it should end.

As for debate on past examples, the RM (which you have often been cited by) has told you after once of your denials and implying i was lying, "He responded by Freepmail and copied to me. Whether or not you acknowledge his reply is irrelevant. It is the only way that kind of challenge can be answered on the Religion Forum, i.e. on this thread. The Smoky Backroom is available to posters who thrive on flame wars. That option is always available to either of you - just do not bring the flame wars back here to the RF. "

But then you even accused the RM of bias, and made another presumptuous accusation you could not prove, and persisted in it and in your self righteous RC arrogance. I admire the RMs tolerance.

Thus your assertion that "you have NEVER seen a Catholic teaching proven false," pertains to your own credibility, and which began this present exchange.

Similarly, we sometimes see people of mediocre ability thinking that they have prevailed in a debate...

Another ambiguous assertion. If you want to show me where i have done so then bring it on.

145 posted on 11/16/2014 9:09:56 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: dsc; metmom
>>I’m not sure I want to.<<

I wonder why.

146 posted on 11/16/2014 9:34:45 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: dsc; daniel1212
>>No one on FR, of course, but some people.<<

Oh go ahead and say it. Catholics are like that all the time.

147 posted on 11/16/2014 9:36:31 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: dsc; metmom
>>Clinging to assumptions where one has no experience is risky at best.<<

As in Catholics speaking on the Holy Spirit.

148 posted on 11/16/2014 9:37:31 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: dsc; ealgeone
>>“There is no other case of one continuous intelligent institution that has been thinking about thinking for two thousand years.<<

You don't give Catholics nearly enough credit. Most of their beliefs go way back to Babylon.

149 posted on 11/16/2014 9:39:26 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: dsc

Your post 134.....more like a 5th grade reply. If that’s the best you’ve got then you need to do some more work.


150 posted on 11/16/2014 9:59:17 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: dsc
Holier men than I, more intelligent, wiser men than I, have left their interpretations of the scriptures.

Who am I that I should substitute my judgment for theirs?

And these men are found in every religion...There's a lot of smart educated muzlim men out there who have convinced over a billion people that you need to be dead if you do not convert to their religion...Kinda like those smart, wise Catholics thru out its history...

There are a lot of smart, wise, educated Jehovah Witness teachers out their who teach right out of the bible and convince a lot of people that their religion is correct...

And the Mormons...Who can forget the Mormons...

One of the things these false religions have in common with your Catholic religion is that they've all created their own 'holy' doctrines, traditions, bibles or literature outside of and independent of God's words written and preserved and given to mankind...

Another common trait of the people who make up these religions is that they refuse to 'search the scriptures' as commanded by God, and 'prove' all things...

You can follow whichever man you want but God gave you the scriptures to find out whether these men are telling you the truth...How can one be a Christian and not be interested in what God has to say about these religions???

151 posted on 11/16/2014 10:31:43 AM PST by Iscool
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To: terycarl
in my very long life, I have NEVER seen a Catholic teaching proven false......never.

That obviously is because you don't consider God's words to mankind to be any kind of authority...You seem to view the Bible the same way the muzlims do...

152 posted on 11/16/2014 10:47:22 AM PST by Iscool
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To: dsc
My, my, it is so very frustrating.
The Holy Spirit, which is one of the three persons in our One God, does what He does when He does it for His own reasons.
Experience shows that the Holy Spirit comes upon people only infrequently, and that only on rare individuals.
If you think the Holy Spirit is helping you understand what you read, and you have not had an earth-shattering, entirely unique, draining, and unmistakable supernatural experience, you are mistaken.

Now that's some pure biblical and spiritual ignorance right there...

Who would you say taught you that, God or Satan???

153 posted on 11/16/2014 10:58:27 AM PST by Iscool
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To: dsc
The difference between those people and educated Catholics is that the latter are capable of applying both reason and faith to the solution of the problems that God poses to us, for our edification.

humanistic wisdom and
faith in the Catholic religion

neither of which have anything to do with God...

How many times have you been show the scripture that man's wisdom is meaningless to God???

154 posted on 11/16/2014 11:02:52 AM PST by Iscool
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To: dsc
I’m not sure I want to. = *I can't because I don't have any*.

I didn't expect you to provide any anyway.

You can't provide what you don't have.

155 posted on 11/16/2014 11:03:48 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: dsc
Clinging to assumptions where one has no experience is risky at best.

Then perhaps it would be best for you to stop.

Meanwhile, the Holy Spirit continues to lead me as He has for the last 35+ years.

156 posted on 11/16/2014 11:05:18 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: CynicalBear

I don’t.

You can’t give what you don’t have.


157 posted on 11/16/2014 11:06:57 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: mrobisr; dsc
And this one

Rom_8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Apparently dsc is admitting that he/she does not belong to Jesus...

158 posted on 11/16/2014 11:07:11 AM PST by Iscool
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To: dsc
Take it up with God, if you don’t like it, because that’s Who I got it from.

In a dream??? you surely didn't get it from God's written words to us...

159 posted on 11/16/2014 11:08:36 AM PST by Iscool
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To: dsc
I’m not sure I want to.

"...be ye ready always..."

160 posted on 11/16/2014 12:25:06 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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