WATCH THE MEDIA IGNORE WHAT POPE FRANCIS JUST SAID ABOUT MARRIAGE

Catholic Vote ^ | October 28, 2014 | John White

[NYer]

Some Catholic blogs and news outlets are reporting this, but we’ll see about the mainstream media and the “progressive” Catholics.

They certainly seemed to think the Synod on the Family was front page news, but of course Pope Francis didn’t publicly say anything during the synod and the secularists and progressive Catholics could fabricate whatever image of Pope Francis they wanted to – and we all know what that was.

But now Pope Francis is talking about marriage, and newsflash – it’s definitely not what the New York Times and the National Catholic Reporter were hoping for. It will be interesting to see how studiously preoccupied with other events they manage to be in order to avoid reporting it.

So what are they ignoring? What did Pope Francis say that they can’t bear to allow into their carefully crafted fairytale?

His words came at an international Marian conference. As reported by CNA:

He warned against the common view in society that “you can call everything family, right?”

“What is being proposed is not marriage, it’s an association. But it’s not marriage! It’s necessary to say these things very clearly and we have to say it!” Pope Francis stressed.

He lamented that there are so many “new forms” of unions which are “totally destructive and limiting the greatness of the love of marriage.”

And…wow.

…”it’s not marriage!”…”we have to say it!”…”totally destructive”

Not mincing words, are we Your Holiness?

And gosh, this is a little problematic for the whole “Pope Francis wants to change marriage but he’s being thwarted by evil conservatives” storyline, don’t you think?

Which is why the media took a field trip today. Or maybe they panicked and quarantined themselves.

After all, the truth can be contagious.

[terycarl]

Why has a misunderstanding of what Jesus Christ said ever been allowed to gain foothold in the RCC so that the church leader has to issue new guidelines on how to handle “such attacks on marriage”.

it never gained a foothold...the media pushed the idea that there could possibly be a change, but that was NEVER possible

[Resettozero]

Trying to mind-read again?

A spurious accusatory inquiry having nothing to do with anything I posted to you. Your point, other than to report me to a mod without good cause is...?

[Resettozero]

it never gained a foothold...the media pushed the idea that there could possibly be a change, but that was NEVER possible

Perhaps the reports you've received have been mistranslated by prot media members?

[terycarl]

See? You live on an alternate sphere than I. Communication isn't conducive because you are adapted to cultic and personal esoteric definitions of words and ideas that have no foothold in reality. Like this statement of yours.

the Pope is the titular head of Christianity...Catholics, being the epitome of Christian belief and the various Christian denominations are subject, in one way or another to his leadership.....That was Christ's intention and that's the way it is.

[Mrs. Don-o]

This is not correct. Nobody is in a superior position of authority over the Word of God. Certainly not you, not me, not the pope -— and he would be the first to tell you that.

[Resettozero]

That was Christ's intention and that's the way it is.

You claim to know the intentions of The Lord Jesus Christ as you just stated?

Also, you are in error again. The Pope may proclaim himself the titular head of Christianity, but if so, the Pope would be gravely mistaken. But he can say he's President of the UN for all I am concerned about that silliness.

The Pope is the titular head of the Roman Catholic church, not EO, and certainly not the Church founded by Jesus Christ.

But you know that's how I see it; right? And I am aware of your indoctrination.

[Resettozero]

...and he would be the first to tell you that.

I know you love him as your Christian brother and realize how devout many RCs on FR are in your beliefs.

On the other hand, I and a few other FReepers prefer to talk about those things that are true (The Lord Jesus Christ and Him crucified, buried, risen, ascended to the Right Hand of all Authority) and not just a man-made sect's religious propaganda and showmanship.

[Tax-chick]

What do you think about contraception?

[Mrs. Don-o]

(The Lord Jesus Christ and Him crucified, buried, risen, ascended to the Right Hand of all Authority)

Him whom I serve and the pope serves Him too.

[Resettozero]

Him whom I serve and the pope serves Him too.

You have better info than I since your are closer to Francis than I want to be. Non-RCC members are not all as certain as you.

[Resettozero]

What do you think about contraception?

Don't need it. Already have my family. Hoped for more arrows in the quiver but...

[Tax-chick]

What if you did “need” it?

[Resettozero]

What if you did “need” it?

You tempting me, Tax-chick?

What if the sun arose in the west?

[Tax-chick]

You tempting me, Tax-chick?

Not in the slightest. I have no intention of tempting anyone, and little chance of it even if I wanted to.

If you don't want to answer the moral question, cebu.

[Resettozero]

If you don't want to answer the moral question, cebu.

Cebu is an island province in the Philippines, consisting of the island itself and 167 surrounding islands. Its capital is Cebu City, the oldest city in the Philippines...

Not sure how we got on the subject of contraception. It just kind of sprang out of thin air. Tell me why you ask me this off-topic question first.

[Tax-chick]

It’s a test question about marriage. If you accept the morality of contraception, you have the concept of human creation and the nature of marriage wrong.

“Cebu” is a synonym for “whatever” in our private family language.

[Resettozero]

It’s a test question about marriage. If you accept the morality of contraception, you have the concept of human creation and the nature of marriage wrong.

“Cebu” is a synonym for “whatever” in our private family language.

Truly, Tax-chick, I don't remember have given it consideration; I've never taken contraception unless my wife spiked my raspberry tea or apple cider. She doesn't take contraceptive measures either, if that were any of your business which it's not.

Aren't you getting a little too nosey? It's a religious (to you apparently) moral question that hasn't been pertinent to our marriage. Is it a trick question? What's your point in testing me about contraception? Is it something like testing the spirits?

[terycarl]

The Pope is the titular head of the Roman Catholic church, not EO, and certainly not the Church founded by Jesus Christ. But you know that's how I see it; right? And I am aware of your indoctrination.

the Pope, as titular head of the Catholic church automatically becomes head of all Christianity. The Catholic church IS Christianity and the various and many denominations that sprang off of the revolution are still part of Christianity.

I am not indoctrinated, I just read a lot and I know of what I speak....your disbelief changes nothing.

[Tax-chick]

No, I’m not being nosy, because I’m not asking about your personal choices in life, but about a moral principle. If you don’t find it relevant, fine, whatever. Have a good evening.

[Hegewisch Dupa]

"concept of human creation and the nature of marriage "

you were nothing if not specific in the bigger picture of your question. Some people may just be scared to discuss moral choices in a religious forum, I guess. Maybe their idea of religion doesn't contain all those fussy theological issues?