CAUTION!! CHRISTIAN BASHING THREAD!!
Al ‘the Rev’ Sharpton says Mormons are not Christian.
-Sycophants and devout holier-than-thou judges agree.-
1. The Mormon 10th 'prophet' claimed "Lucifer was one of us" as a cadre of pre-mortal, pre-world spirits.
2. As one Salt Lake City seminary/institute instructor -- a Mormon in good standing noted in a book -- Joseph Smith's original FIRST VISION by unnamed entities 'came AFTER his being seized and overcome for a time by Satan. The attack was a powerful one.' (This provides us with a possible window into demonic possession afoot here)
3. For three September 22nds in Joseph Smith's young life, per an Lds "apostle" speaking at a Mormon church-wide conference in 1952, it highlights how "...Moroni, a personage who came back from the dead and ministered to Joseph Smith, gave him direction, and helped him in the production of the Book of Mormon." This is indeed Mormonism's false ghostly "gospel" distinct from the Christian one.
4. Indeed, Joseph Smith had plenty of occult books to influence him. See former BYU History professor D. Michael Quinn's Occult Origins of Mormonism: Availability of Occult Books to Joseph Smith (1999). Note: As a BYU history professor at the time, Quinn earlier authored the book: Early Mormonism and the Magic World View
5. Mitt Romney's Great-great Grandpa (Lds 'apostle' Parley P. Pratt) said Joseph Smith was a 'medium' and Mormonism itself is founded entirely on the practice of necromancy (communication with the dead). And, all of this is STILL emphasized by the Mormon Church leadership in its publications within this generation.
6. A history of Mormon temple paranormal activity and how communication with the dead is STILL encouraged by the Mormon Church hierarchy is well-documented:
* 19th century occultic Mormon phenomena: Paranormal intermingling, demonic possession [Vanity]
* They See Dead People? (The OTHER World Series - LDS & Temple Hauntings)
* Lds Temple Haunted? Did Declaration of Independence signers appear as ghosts to leader? [Vanity]
7. Occultic phenomena and visitations by demons was a common 19th-century Mormonism church/church leader phenomena.
I think we she catalog all of the Freepers’ religions. Then we could have little icons. We could have a miter for Catholics. Little crosses for Protestants, little golden undies for Mormons. Just ban the Muslims. And we could have little stars for the Jews.
Oh, has someone already used that idea? How did that work out?
Good List Colofornian.
Mormons?
They are in the data business.....
This information needs to remain out there, despite efforts to suppress it. Let it not be forgotten!
“Before the foundations of this earth were laid, WE were ALL in the presence of the Father as spiritual children. Lucifer was one of us...”
5 The Lord hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.
6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.
7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.
8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.
9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.
10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?
11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
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Deconstructing Linus: Portrait of a True Believing Pumpkinist as a Young Man "Each year on Halloween night, the Great Pumpkin rises out of the pumpkin patch that he thinks is the most sincere and flies through the air with his pack of toys for all the good little children in the world." No. This is about sincerity, a subjective standard by any definition. |
I wonder if Linus blames himself every year for not picking the most sincere pumpkin patch for his vigil?
I wonder if other Great Pumpkinists castigate Linus by asserting if he were more in tune with the Spirit of the Great Pumpkin, if he were more prayerful, if he read the Holy Writ of the Great Pumpkin with a greater sincerity, that he could indeed rise to the challenge and, via the Spirit, be lead to choose the most sincere pumpkin patch?
I wonder how many years Linus will feel guilty for this failure and blame himself for receiving no answer no matter how sincere he believes himself to be?
I wonder if Linus ever gets frustrated because there is no objective way to measure sincerity? And if he realizes there is no objective standard for such a thing, I wonder if it ever creeps into his mind that his annual mission is nothing more than mindless busywork?
I wonder, does Linus ever has doubts?
For the time being, however, Linus will put aside his doubts and, perhaps as a means of proving his sincerity, begins to proselyte among his friends for converts. Most shrug him off. But Sally, who has a crush on him, believes Linus and agrees to spend Halloween in Linus’ Pumpkin Patch.
Linus then explains that by using positive language and positive thinking, they may be able to attract the Great Pumpkin to their Patch. He also cautions Sally that negative language and negative thinking will cause the Great Pumpkin to pass them by.
There is no room for doubt when one is a Great Pumpkinist. One should never say if the Great Pumpkin comes but always when the Great Pumpkin comes. "One little slip like that, can cause the Great Pumpkin to pass you by!" It’s hard to imagine a benevolent icon such as the Great Pumpkin punishing TBPs (True Believing Pumkinists) for such a minor infraction, but there you have it.
Sally: The Birth of an Ex-Pumpkinist
Because Sally loves her “sweet baboo” Linus, she sets aside her own Halloween plans of trick-or-treating and a Halloween party in order to spend the evening in the Pumpkin Patch. She converts to Great Pumpkinism because she loves Linus. She respects his opinion. And she wants to make him happy and be supportive. And besides, if it’s really true, WOW! Wouldn’t that be fantastic?
But in the end, the only Being that shows up in the Pumpkin Patch is Snoopy. Linus, believing Snoopy to be the Great Pumpkin, swoons into an ecstatic faint, happy in the knowledge that he has finally deciphered the Great Pumpkin’s standard for sincerity. But, alas, it is a misplaced hope, and when Linus regains consciousness, there is not only no Great Pumpkin there to reward him, there is one upset little girl.
"I was robbed! I spent the whole night waiting for the Great Pumpkin when I could have been out for tricks or treats! Halloween is over and I missed it! You blockhead! You kept me up all night waiting for the Great Pumpkin and all that came was a beagle!"
"I didn't get a chance to go out for tricks or treats! And it was all your fault! I'll sue! What a fool I was. And I could have had candy apples and gum! And cookies and money and all sorts of things! But no, I had to listen to you! You blockhead. What a fool I was. Trick or treats come only once a year. And I missed it by sitting in a pumpkin patch with a blockhead. You owe me restitution!"
Luckily for Sally, she only missed one Halloween. And though she is demanding restitution, because her participation was voluntary, she will never receive said restitution. She’ll simply have to accept the experience as one of life’s absurdities and move on.
However, one can hope that this experience has made Sally a more skeptical person, so that the next time she is presented with such fantastic claims, she’ll perhaps be inclined to do her research before committing any time, money or emotion.
After all, fantastic claims should be supported by fantastic evidence, right?
The question now becomes, has this experience made Linus a skeptic? After yet again not having his Pumpkin Patch recognized as sincere and after having endangered his friendship with Sally, will he continue to believe?
In spite of a complete and utter lack of evidence pointing to the existence of the Great Pumpkin, and a complete and utter lack of the Great Pumpkin’s Promise ever having been fulfilled, Linus is a True Believing Pumpkinist to the core. To even admit the possibility that he may be wrong would be to negate all those years of hard work and sincere belief. Linus simply cannot turn his back on his belief.
So if Linus doesn't become an ex-Pumpkinist, what is his strategy? Well, he’s going to keep on trying, isn't he?
"What do you mean, 'stupid'? Just wait until next year. I'll find a pumpkin patch, and I'll sit in that pumpkin patch and it'll be a sincere pumpkin patch, and the Great Pumpkin will come! Just you wait and see! I'll sit in that pumpkin patch, and I'll see the Great Pumpkin. Just wait until next year!"
If understand them correctly The Church pretty much agrees with all that you reported upon and is proud of it. They may see some of the things in a little different light or perhaps use a little different wording, more flattering wording but pretty much means the same thing.
To Mormons a just God would not let people who have never heard the word of God be sentenced to Hell for eternity. This is one thing I find fascinating about the Mormon religion.
I do believe in life after death, I haven’t a clue what it is though. While I don’t know what it is I think the way the Mormons see it looks pretty interesting. Nobody else talks much about it, it is either Heaven or Hell and if you don’t confess Jesus Christ as Savior then it is Hell. I think the Mormon theology offers a little hope to those who have never heard the name of Jesus Christ. If God is our Father and He does love us then I think He would provide a way of salvation to all His children and not depend on the luck of the draw.
A strange way to try and ‘expose’ Mormonism, when what is mentioned here is found in the Bible.
There are plenty of episodes mentioned in the New Testament where evil spirits tormented various people, and Jesus cast them out.
As far as people coming back from the dead, we know that Jesus did — and also after his resurrection:
“The graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.” (Matthew 27:52-53)
I wouldn’t consider that occult — it’s part of the miraculous power of the resurrection.
Wow, this is very interesting!