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Bishops Reject Shift in Tone for Gay, Divorced Catholics
Wall St. J ^ | October 18, 2014 | DEBORAH BALL

Posted on 10/18/2014 4:51:58 PM PDT by Steelfish

Bishops Reject Shift in Tone for Gay, Divorced Catholics Bishops Reject Language Highlighting ‘Precious Support’ Committed Gay Couples Lend Each Other

DEBORAH BALL Oct. 18, 2014

ROME—Catholic bishops voted Saturday to water down a report earlier this week that advocated a significant shift in the church’s approach to gays and divorced Catholics, reflecting a deep split within the church’s leadership.

In a vote Saturday evening, an assembly of nearly 200 bishops, who have been discussing issues concerning the family at a special meeting known as a synod, took their final vote on a working document released Monday. That document, released halfway through the two-week synod, proposed a far more open approach to gays and suggested a path back to the church for divorced Catholics who have remarried to receive communion.

The document had created waves for highlighting the “precious support” that committed gay couples lend to one another, using language that was far more open and welcoming than the Catholic Church has employed in the past when referring to homosexuals.

At the same time, the report suggested that remarried Catholics could receive communion after a period of penance. Currently, the church denies communion to Catholics who have remarried, unless their first marriage is annulled.

A final vote on the document showed broad support for the original sections regarding gays and remarried Catholics, but it fell short of the two-third majority needed to retain them in their original in the synod’s final report.

As a result of the vote, both portions were revised. The section originally applauding the “precious support” sometimes found in same-sex unions was dropped, replaced by language simply saying that gays must be “welcomed with respect and delicacy.” On the topic of remarried Catholics, the final document largely expresses the need for further study on a solution

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TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; religiousleft

1 posted on 10/18/2014 4:51:58 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
All this bafflegab is so odd.

"At the same time, the report suggested that remarried Catholics could receive communion after a period of penance. "

But of course. They can alwaus go back to Confession and Communion. What you can't go back to is bigamous sexual relations.

This sounds flip, but it's not. I know a couple in my parish who are in one of these "irregular" divorce-remarriage union, who have discontinued sexual relations and are living like brother and sister for the sake of respect for their previous vows, their honor, and the honor of God.

I know this "honor" and "sanctity" thing is hard for the modern mind to accept.

2 posted on 10/18/2014 5:17:37 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (“The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it.” - Flannery O'Connor)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It would be a lot easier to just buy a plenary indulgence. It’s probably been long enough that nobody remembers what it is, so the complaints would be minimal.


3 posted on 10/18/2014 5:40:08 PM PDT by Bernard (The Road To Hell is not paved with good results.)
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To: Steelfish

First the NYT is saddened. Now the WSJ is saddened. Oh well.


4 posted on 10/18/2014 5:42:41 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Bernard

Not sure what you mean. You can’t buy a plenary indulgence.


5 posted on 10/18/2014 5:48:10 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (What does the LORD require of you, but to act justly, to love tenderly, to walk humbly with your God)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

And Pope Francis and Cardinal Kasper are saddened. Oh well.


6 posted on 10/18/2014 6:27:44 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I’m not saddened because God is in charge.


7 posted on 10/18/2014 6:40:35 PM PDT by tiki
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To: tiki

God is always in charge. He was in charge during the Great Flood. A great many people were saddened at that time.


8 posted on 10/18/2014 7:10:30 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Bernard

One cannot buy indulgences of any kind and one of the requirements to obtain a plenary indulgence is a complete detachment from all sin.


9 posted on 10/18/2014 7:34:30 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: Steelfish

**A final vote on the document showed broad support for the original sections regarding gays and remarried Catholics, but it fell short of the two-third majority needed to retain them in their original in the synod’s final report.**

Good for the Bishops in speaking out.


10 posted on 10/18/2014 7:39:04 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Bernard
Please read up on indulgences. Your statements are wrong in my opinion and the church's!

Essays for Lent: Indulgences
Radio Replies Second Volume - Indulgences
Catholic Word of the Day: APOSTOLIC INDULGENCES, 03-24-11
A Primer on Indulgences
INDULGENCES and Why they Remain Vital to us Today (Catholic Caucus)

Radio Replies First Volume - Indulgences
Indulgences - and Why they Remain Vital to us Today [Catholic Caucus]
Pope OKs plenary indulgence for Lourdes' 150th anniversary [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
[What Every Catholic Needs to Know about] Gaining Indulgences [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
A Brief Catechism for Adults - Lesson 26: Indulgences
Vatican says Catholics can get indulgence for sick-day activities (Devotional Announcement)[World Day of the Sick]
ortiuncula Indulgence can be obtained this Sunday
He who holds the keys to the kingdom - the Catholic practice of granting indulgences
POPE GRANTS PLENARY INDULGENCE FOR YEAR OF THE EUCHARIST
New Plenary Indulgence to Mark Year of the Eucharist

11 posted on 10/18/2014 7:50:34 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Steelfish

“Water down” a radical, falsified document completely changing Church teaching on personal sexual morality? Water away.


12 posted on 10/18/2014 8:14:11 PM PDT by livius
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To: Mrs. Don-o

For anyone who understands the Real Presence, giving up the marital embrace when you’re not married is, in the big scheme of things, a very small price to pay to receive Him in the Holy Eucharist.


13 posted on 10/18/2014 9:32:23 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM ( Regrettably, and by present necessity, more Catholic than the Pope.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Dear Mrs. Don-o,

As well, indulgences only remit temporal punishment for sins already committed. Even if one could “buy” a plenary indulgence, for those involved in a second “marriage,” they'd need a new one every time they had sex with their partner.


sitetest

14 posted on 10/19/2014 7:23:43 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Steelfish

That there was even something, within a purported Christan church, to reject is what’s so alarming.

Such proposals shouldn’t make it within a light year of the debate table of a real church.


15 posted on 10/19/2014 8:58:31 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: livius

Shallow comment. This is NOT the teaching of the Magisterium. It is about how one pastorally reaches out to some of the errant flock in a global church with ONE Credo and ONE Catechism. This, by the way is not a final draft.


16 posted on 10/19/2014 9:36:12 AM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

Exactly. It’s not the teaching of the Magisterium. And that’s what’s so bad about it.


17 posted on 10/19/2014 3:32:44 PM PDT by livius
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