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BREAKING: [Burke says] Pope Harming the Church
Church Militant TV ^ | Oct 17 2014 | Michael Voris

Posted on 10/17/2014 5:25:44 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM

Oct 17 2014

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By Church Militant TV News Headlines

BREAKING: Pope Harming the Church

Cardinal Burke: Pope is harming the Church by not making his position clear.

To read the entire interview with Cardinal Raymond Burke, click here!



TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: canada; churchmilitant; divorce; fakecatholic; homosexualagenda; liberationtheology; michaelvoris; popefrancis; raymondburke; romancatholicism
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To: Bridesheadfan

“There will always be marginalized, lukewarm and part-time Catholics who attend Mass occasionally or infrequently, who may be in an invalid marriage or living together. Persons with same-sex attraction may have succumbed to the invalid civil union and civil marriage recourse. Pastorally seeing and treating all of them as children of God and as brothers and sisters in Christ in need of moral and spiritual guidance is what the Church is about. Not denying or watering down the faith, but with mercy, encouraging them to amend their lives and rectify their relationships.....” ~ Fr. John Trigilio

Amazing when a parish priest has more understanding of Catholic Church doctrine that the Pope.....but he certainly does.


61 posted on 10/17/2014 6:50:11 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("PRO FIDE, PRO UTILITATE HOMINUM")
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

But why the envy over the money to begin with? I don’t think Voris is required to take a vow of poverty. If he made a lot of money (which he does not) for his hard work, more power to him.


62 posted on 10/17/2014 6:52:35 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Romulus
You really don’t understand what’s happening.

I really do, though.

63 posted on 10/17/2014 6:53:27 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: fatima
I was never on any of his TV shows, ever. At one time I served as a moderator on a forum that was associated with his previous RealCatholicTV website, but it sure as heck wasn't a formal affiliation and I've never been paid for any Catholic journalism anywhere.

Why in the world would you insinuate some kind of financial misdeed for him or myself?

That's just bizarre, even calumnious.

Feel free to disagree with my Catholic position, call me a wrongheaded idiot, but please don't insinuate I'm benefiting financially from posting here or anywhere else.

64 posted on 10/17/2014 6:54:08 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM ( Regrettably, and by present necessity, more Catholic than the Pope.)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

It differs a lot. It makes it sound as if Cdl Burke has charged the Pope with (intentionally) harming the Church. His actual statement was neutral and just an observation about Francis’ failure to be explicit.

Saying that Burke has actually made a statement like this is just giving more ammunition to the Pope, who will probably not even send Burke to Malta now but probably remove him altogether from service to the Church. People should be more careful about inflammatory headlines because they can do a lot of damage.


65 posted on 10/17/2014 6:55:07 PM PDT by livius
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
But why the envy over the money to begin with?

No idea! Its one of the most bizarre things I've seen come from our "side" over the years.

66 posted on 10/17/2014 6:55:17 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM ( Regrettably, and by present necessity, more Catholic than the Pope.)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

“The pope is not free to change the church’s teachings with regard to the immorality of homosexual acts or the insolubility of marriage or any other doctrine of the faith.”

Wow..Just wow

Am I a bad Catholic to support what our American Cardinal said?


67 posted on 10/17/2014 7:06:50 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: icwhatudo

No. See my new sig.


68 posted on 10/17/2014 7:07:25 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM ( Regrettably, and by present necessity, more Catholic than the Pope.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

That video is great. Thanks.


69 posted on 10/17/2014 7:11:03 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
Brian,Earning money from being on TV is not a misdeed it's normal.So he reports 50,000 ,modest.So you never went on TV with him?I thought you said once I was just on TV a few weeks ago.Doesn't matter.So his focus after staying up 18 hours a day is ,just a screen capture"CIA - ChurchMilitant.TV - Catholics are born for combat www.churchmilitant.tv/cia/‎ Catholic Investigative Agency is ChurchMilitant.TV's program devoted to in-depth examination of scandals, betrayals and evil in the Church."He change the words of Cardinal Burke.Keep on rolling Brian.Michael is welcome to come here to answer for himself.He changed to words of Cardinal Burke-unreal.Puff up Michael.
70 posted on 10/17/2014 7:15:54 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

As a person, the Pope is not infallible. Nor are his non official statements on the various subjects or theology.
The question is whether Francis will make an official statement on the Faith that could contradict Church teachings.
Unfortunately, I think Francis will do it.


71 posted on 10/17/2014 7:16:23 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: fatima
I thought you said once I was just on TV a few weeks ago.

I've been on EWTN Radio and Radio Maria network. I've never been on Voris' programs.

72 posted on 10/17/2014 7:21:40 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM ( Regrettably, and by present necessity, more Catholic than the Pope.)
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To: fatima
He change the words of Cardinal Burke. Michael is welcome to come here to answer for himself.He changed to words of Cardinal Burke-unreal.Puff up Michael.

The Pope and his progressive henchmen just tried to change the Church's teachings on Sacraments for the divorced and remarried and homosexuality, but you're worked up about Voris' title of a blog post?!?

Ok....now that we got that cleared up...

73 posted on 10/17/2014 7:24:06 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM ( Regrettably, and by present necessity, more Catholic than the Pope.)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

So have I ,but I guess I’m mistaken about the TV part with him for you..Cardinal Burke is an easy interview.We did it .Very sweet nice man and very holy.But we never change his words.You don’t have answer for Michael to me.


74 posted on 10/17/2014 7:31:58 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

You are not getting this Brian.It’s a betrayal of the interview.He is trying to sensationalized the headline.That’s why I asked about the money.


75 posted on 10/17/2014 7:36:45 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: fatima
He is trying to sensationalized the headline.

No, I do not agree with your assessment. Voris has steadfastly defended this Pope and criticized anyone who criticized this Pope.

He had his eyes opened this week, I think, and he was shocked by the forthright and blunt words of Cardinal Burke.

The title reflects the reality at the Vatican, whether we like it or acknowledge it or not.

As Steve Jalsevac says today in this article, Robert Royal’s synod call to vigilance for the next year

The time for naiveté and overly pious responses to harsh realities that have now been exposed is over.

I sat with Steve at lunch one day this week, and I think he and everyone who had reporters on the inside of this Synod, or who was there or talked to orthodox bishops and cardinals there, is shocked by what transpired. None of us know what to say or how to say it as nothing quite like what has transpired over the last two years has ever happened before in the history of the Church.

76 posted on 10/17/2014 7:49:59 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM ( Regrettably, and by present necessity, more Catholic than the Pope.)
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To: impimp
The pope can clarify and develop teaching infallibly, but he can’t provide completely new teaching or reverse teaching.

Please see the infallibility of the pope, the assumption of Mary, the immaculate conception.

Not one supported by the Bible.

77 posted on 10/17/2014 8:03:33 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

What’s a cultural Catholic? Nancy Pelosi? Joe Biden?

They go to Mass. Donna Wuerl gives them Holy Communion. They’re cultural; just like Donna and Francis.


78 posted on 10/17/2014 8:03:52 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: grumpygresh

“The question is whether Francis will make an official statement on the Faith that could contradict Church teachings.
Unfortunately, I think Francis will do it”

He then becomes an Apostate and can be ignored by anyone, including the Bishops.


79 posted on 10/17/2014 8:04:25 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("PRO FIDE, PRO UTILITATE HOMINUM")
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

He changed the Cardinal words.Hello,Does Michael think he is that important.
“Prefect of the Apostolic Signatura[edit]
Styles of
Raymond Leo Burke

Reference style His Eminence
Spoken style Your Eminence
Informal style Cardinal
On June 27, 2008, Pope Benedict XVI appointed Burke Prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura.[23] The Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura exercises final appellate jurisdiction for conflicts between two or more Vatican congregations and appeals of administrative decisions by diocesan bishops and Vatican congregations. Burke was the first non-European named to head the tribunal and became the second-highest ranking American prelate at the Vatican after Cardinal William Levada, the prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.”


80 posted on 10/17/2014 8:08:03 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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