[NKP_Vet]

God bless this authentic Catholic bishop. But as far as Pope Francis giving a statement defending Catholic thinking that's wishful thinking. It would make liberals too mad and he only likes to make conservatives uneasy.

[NYer]

Catholic ping!

[ConservingFreedom]

the “positive aspects” of lifestyles the Church considers gravely sinful, including civil remarriage after divorce and premarital cohabitation.

Kinda like embezzling from one's employer has the “positive aspect” of sharpening one's bookkeeping skills.

[Jim from C-Town]

proposes allowing Communion for divorced-and-remarried Catholics on a “case-by-case basis”; They are already served on a case by case basis. It is called annulment> Without one, you are not officially married in the Church and are living in a persistent state of mortal sin. The Church isn't here to make you feel good about your poor life decisions, it is supposed to be here to shepherd you to eternal life in Heaven.

[marshmallow]

The fix has been in from the beginning. It started in February with Kasper being invited by the Pope to present his position paper on Communion for the remarried to a special consistory. +Francis then lauded it as "serene theology" and Kasper has been relentlessly promoting it ever since with absolutely no hint of papal disapproval. The choice of Synod participants then took things one step further with the notable exclusion of members of the Pontifical John Paul II Institute for Studies on Marriage and Family, a bastion of orthodoxy.

Then came the decision to keep episcopal interventions anonymous with only a short press briefing at the end of each day and finally, yesterday's fiasco which went far beyond Kasper's original thesis and into the area of valuing homosexual "orientation".

There are two possible conclusions regarding +Francis' involvement in all of this, which is the real elephant in the room.

Either he's orchestrating this or he's winking at those who are.

Kasper, Wuerl, Forte et al., are faithless apostates but we've known that for some time and it's not the big story here. The story is +Francis.

[I want the USA back]

Can the Pope be wrong? What does this do for infallibility?

[Prince of Space]

This POPE makes me uneasy.

[jaz.357]

Lets all do the Vatican Rag http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvhYqeGp_Do

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

Yes, there is division in the ranks of the bishops.

It's not unprecedented. At the height of the Arian heresy, it's estimated that there were more pro-Arian bishops than anti.

And during the debate at the Council of Nicea, St. Nicholas punched Arius in the face.

Yes, that St. Nicholas.

[narses]

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