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Key synod rpt calls for 'gradualism' in Church response to irregular family situations (Cath Cauc)
Catholic Culture ^ | October 13, 2014 | Diogenes

Posted on 10/13/2014 3:56:48 PM PDT by NYer

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22 posted on 10/13/2014 6:05:59 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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To: johniegrad

“accepting and VALUING their sexual orientation”

No one is has a homosexual orientation. Homosexual acts are “intrinsically disordered”. They are “acts of grave depravity”. The church can not VALUE or accept this depravity. To do so would fly in the face of Catechism of the Catholic Church. Francis and his merry band of liberal heretics need their heads examined.

“Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.” They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved”


23 posted on 10/13/2014 6:29:43 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: johniegrad

If you’re going to “value” homosexual’ orientations, why not “value” pedophiliac, incestuous, or polygamous orientations?

What value do you see in homosexual orientations, johnie? What do you see they can contribute to the Catholic Church?


24 posted on 10/13/2014 6:35:38 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Coleus; ELS

This synod stuff is a surprise to me (for shame...) but if you guys are following it, please ping me. Thanks!


25 posted on 10/13/2014 8:12:46 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: NYer

Your title says caucus but not which one. I will fix it. In the future, be sure to get the caucus name in there, even if you have to abbreviate words.


26 posted on 10/13/2014 8:39:08 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: NYer

http://cathnews.com/cathnews/19372-synod-told-that-children-of-gay-couples-should-be-baptised


27 posted on 10/14/2014 3:02:15 AM PDT by Biggirl
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

There is an article I have posted, post number 27.


28 posted on 10/14/2014 3:03:40 AM PDT by Biggirl
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To: NYer

Rosary rosary rosary. We must stay strong and faithful. When has our faith ever been an easy thing? That was never promised. The thing we (I) must guard against the most is the temptation to despair. Nope, not happening.

Pray for me brothers and sisters, I am praying for you


29 posted on 10/14/2014 8:14:09 AM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: SaintDismas
Thanks, I will pray for you. We will get through this. I don't see any major changes coming out. What I do see, is the younger priests and seminarians are conservative for the most part. I think that dealing with the disordered can not be harsh. Not being harsh and condoning is a fine line, but we have all fallen short. Mercy is needed to lead them down the right path. Clubbing people over the head never changes minds.

Many folks think they are good people even when they are in a disordered relationship. They need to be made to see that they are putting their souls in jeopardy. If they care enough to show up for Mass we need to extend kindness. I have seen a fair amount of harshness on this forum over the years and quite frankly it is very off putting. Jesus did not just come for the good, he came for all. Not all will follow, but that is his desire.

Before anyone thinks I am wanting to change the teaching. I do not. I do understand that there are real people who have real hurts and it is a pastors job to help them work through that hurt. Merely giving the Eucharist will not heal the disordered if they are still disordered, but patient teaching and understanding may lead them to see that they must change their lives.

30 posted on 10/14/2014 10:49:59 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: narses

http://www.ewtnnews.com/catholic-news/Vatican.php?id=10946


31 posted on 10/14/2014 11:00:08 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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