Posted on 10/13/2014 10:31:21 AM PDT by Innovative
ROME (CNN) – Using strikingly open language, a new Vatican report says the church should welcome and appreciate gays, and offers a solution for divorced and remarried Catholics who want to receive Communion.
“Regarding homosexuals, it went so far as to pose the question whether the church could accept and value their sexual orientation without compromising Catholic doctrine,” said John Thavis, a former Rome bureau chief for Catholic News Service.
The Rev. James Martin, an author and Jesuit priest, called the report's language on gays and lesbians "revolutionary."
“Homosexuals have gifts and qualities to offer to the Christian community. Are we capable of welcoming these people, guaranteeing to them a fraternal space in our communities? Often they wish to encounter a church that offers them a welcoming home. Are our communities capable of providing that, accepting and valuing their sexual orientation, without compromising Catholic doctrine on the family and matrimony?”
(Excerpt) Read more at religion.blogs.cnn.com ...
This is a rumor of a rumor, propagandized by CNN.
So, I guess gay priests will be okay too, because they are talented and can contribute? And just how has the pedophile priest scandal worked out for the Church so far?
I am not Catholic either, but likewise respected the Church because they stood for their principles in a turbulent world. Instead, they seem to have elected a pseudo-Marxist Pope who is getting read to deconstruct traditional Catholicism on multiple fronts.
If by 'revolutionary' he means that it sets the church against its own teachings and its own adherents, then he's right.
The Catholic church routinely puts their inane traditions before God's Word. This will be no different.
A majority of Catholic clergy is hopelessly socialist and has been for many decades. The homo issue is just the latest before which that clergy will bend the knee. Abortion is next.
Millions of Protestants have left their mainline churches and joined Evangelical churches once they realized that the mainliners were apostate.
What will Catholics do?
This is a mid-Synod report.
The report includes proposals that has been made by the more liberal elements of the Catholic Church at the Family Synod.
The synod is not supposed to reach any definitive conclusions, but set the agenda for a larger world synod to be held Oct. 4-25, 2015, which will make recommendations to the pope.
The Catholic Church is huge. It cannot but help have some leadership that has a leftist agenda. So the leftists make a leftist proposal. The report on the Synod includes the leftist proposals. It includes all the proposals.
This isn’t the first time that these nuttty ideas have been proposed.
This is just CNN making more out of the situation than is really there.
I am Catholic, and I will wait to react. This is CNN after all.
I’ll wait for the full story come out, and not just the rumors.
Once again, a report states a conclusion that has not been and will not be reached. The purpose of the Synod is to ask questions. Some of those questions will not possibly lead to changes in practice or doctrine, and this is one of them. These reports are intended to mislead and discourage Catholics and to mislead and encourage critics.
I humbly suggest that all judgment of the Synod be reserved until the final statements are released. But then what would everyone have to get up in arms about?
Love,
O2
We will do what you will not... wait, pray and see what actually comes from the Synod rather than CNN.
Thanks for the contexts and clarity.
From the link...
The Catholic Catechism calls homosexual acts “intrinsically disordered” and calls on gays and lesbians to live in chastity. Under Pope Benedict XVI, the church had tried to purge men with “deep-seated homosexual tendencies” from the priesthood.
But Pope Francis, while hewing to Catholic teaching, has signaled a gentler tone, famously saying in 2013 “Who am I to judge?” gays and lesbians. The report released on Monday, a summary of a week of closed-door discussions of nearly 200 bishops, cardinals and priests, together with Pope Francis, continues that trend.
“Intrinsically disordered”? Live lives of chastity?
Right.
This is a mid-Synod report.
Some further explanation....
http://ncronline.org/blogs/distinctly-catholic/halftime-synod
I’ll expound further.
People think Catholics think infallibility means the Pope will always be a good guy and be right about everything.
No.
It means the *Holy Spirit* will protect the Church, and that can include everything up to, and including, having a dunce of a Pope who is about to release something heretical get clobbered by an unexpected meteor.
Either one of two things is happening. A) liberals will be trying like CRAZY to get this deal done, but it will be squashed flat by the African synod fathers and everyone else with half a brain in their heads. Or B) the working committee is really putting together a document of such colossal theological stupidity, in which case I will warn my family in Rome to watch out for falling objects.
This Church is Christ’s Church. Not the Pope’s. Not Kasper’s. Not the Sodomites’.
I’ve never understood how it is, that the large number of child abuse cases involving homosexual priests never became a bad reflection upon the gay community.
...it’s remarkably easy to understand...the prevailing notion was pushed that the offending priests were not homosexual...see, problem solved...
True and I believe that this is the reason the Catholic church is going WAAAAY left now.
They are in danger of losing the funding that they have had for decades. If social spending in budgets is shrunk they lose a massive amount of power.
I saw the other day that the Bishops received something like sixty two million from the Fed Government a couple of years ago for the care of illegals. Now, why do you think they fight so hard for the illegals? To keep their Money!
Ah - homosexuality is not Catholic tradition.
It claims to quote directly from a report from the Vatican. Granted, it’s a big place with lots of people living and working there. It doesn’t say who exactly prepared the report, and I suppose it might be internal discussion that somebody released rather than actual policy report. Still, it sounds like more than a “rumor of a rumor.”
Instead, they seem to have elected a pseudo-Marxist Pope who is getting read to deconstruct traditional Catholicism on multiple fronts.
...neither he, nor any other Pope, has the power to do that...
...but a surprisingly small contingent of like minded minions could cause immense damage on that front...see the ‘spirit of Vatican II’...
“tradition” can change, because it is inherently decided by Man, not by God, who is “infinite, eternal, and unchangeable”.
and they're about to prove it yet again...problem is they have eyes but do not see.
This isn’t the first time that these nuttty ideas have been proposed.
...you make some good points, but the above quote caught my attention...just so all the info on this thread is open and aboveboard, when has the idea of valuing the ‘orientation of homosexuality’ been proposed to an official Catholic convocation of high ranking prelates...?
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