Posted on 10/11/2014 8:36:27 AM PDT by Gamecock
Jesus tells us the way. That works for me.
Yep, got a whole lot of people tortured and murdered in direct violation of the Law of Love.
Always a false argument that uses dates as a substitute for God's eternal plan.
The only Church, comprised of every single soul who has entrusted themselves by faith to Christ's finished sacrifice, was chosen in the heart of God in eternity and before time began. He has no grandchildren or great grandchildren. He has children, chosen, saved, pure, imbued with the righteousness of Christ, formed into His Body, formed as His Bride.
Denominational dates in history are a poor, poor substitute or Eternal Truth - declared by God in His inspired Word - nor do they matter in the slightest. It is in short, a world-bound argument that misses the truth.
"Even before he made the world, God loved us and chose us in Christ to be holy and without fault in his eyes."
Ephesians 1:4
Question..
What if Jesus is the anti messiah or ‘in place of’or ‘instead of’ messiah, created by the greco roman latin world that counterfeits the Messiah of Israel, Joshua?
Answer.. it would explain 30,000 different denomination daughters birthed from the original counterfeit greco roman latin mother church.
And it may explain why Christendom cant see itself in mystery babylon...
Catholic 33 Jesus Christ
"Church of Christ" claims the same thing.
Later documents softened that positioned.
My daughter-in-law became Catholic before she married my son. I helped to find a class for her and I contacted the parish close to her college. I told the priest that she was baptized Presbyterian and he said, "That is pretty close, yes her baptism would be accepted."
We all are much better off by looking at what we share and go from there than to purposely distance ourselves from others.
Discussed here.
"recursion: n. See recursion."
Wisdom...increasingly rare on FR these days...
And how is it that all of those groups claim to follow the Bible *alone* to come to their conclusions?
Not alone.
Is the protestant position that difficult to understand?
What about those brave Unitarian and Christ the Scientist martyrs of the 3rd Century? Or the brilliant Dutch Reform and Foursquare Gospel theological scolars and their contribution to the early councils and synods? And where would we be without the military might of the Congregationalists?
The date prove otherwise. History doesn’t lie.
from the chart
United Church of Christ
1957
A union of different traditions
My daughter-in-law became Catholic before she married my son. I helped to find a class for her and I contacted the parish close to her college. I told the priest that she was baptized Presbyterian and he said, "That is pretty close, yes her baptism would be accepted."
My understanding is, with water in the name of the triune God, is sufficent.
We all are much better off by looking at what we share and go from there than to purposely distance ourselves from others.
Those who talk about "thirty thousand denominations" (or whatever the number pulled out of a dark place is this year) seem to be deliberately misunderstanding and misrepresenting protestant ecclesiology. See, for an example, the oft repeated chart Salvation reproduced above.
I, as a Presbyterian, don't think the Lutherans and the Baptists are not Christians and in a false church. The Catholic arguers do seem to think that.
Whether there are 30,000 denominations or 300 doesn’t change the basic point, i.e., that they can’t all be right, unless one accepts the idea that some variations in theology, worship, and organization are legitimate variations of the core Bible message. And then the argument becomes: which variations are legitimate, and which aren’t?
Well, they are just plain wrong.
A number of Protestant churches say the Apostle's Creed and all say the Our Father. Each Protestant denomination holds onto certain aspects that are also shared by Catholics. That is what we should be concentrating on.
We are separated for reasons only God knows.
It will be to His Glory when we all put away our differences.
Jesus would have it no other way.
The problem with your chart, with “Catholic” first on your list, is you and your fellow Romanists think ROMAN Catholic when they read “Catholic,” the totalitarian system that arose to prominence claiming primacy over Christian churches of the Roman empire around the time of Leo, some 500 years AFTER the original Apostolic church.
The original Catholic church in the Bible, and the paganized totalitarian Roman Catholic system bear no resemblance to each other.
“The original Catholic church in the Bible, and the paganized totalitarian Roman Catholic system bear no resemblance to each other”.
Blah, blah, blah. Can you come up with anything original.
I don’t believe any denomination or person has it 100% correct... we are all sinful imperfect vessels and should humbly approach the Lord’s thrown and rejoice in his grace. We should take a humble attitude and a servant heart with each other and not boast for our ideology or denomination. We are brothers and sister in Christ let that be enough.
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