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Why would anyone become Catholic?
https://www.indiegogo.com ^ | October 2, 2014 | Indiegogo

Posted on 10/08/2014 11:39:09 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

Why would intelligent, successful people give up their careers, alienate their friends, and cause havoc in their families...to become Catholic? Indeed, why would anyone become Catholic?

As an evangelist and author who recently threw my own life into some turmoil by deciding to enter the Catholic Church, I've faced this question a lot lately. That is one reason I decided to make this documentary; it's part of my attempt to try to explain to those closest to me why I would do such a crazy thing.

Convinced isn't just about me, though. The film is built around interviews with some of the most articulate and compelling Catholic converts in our culture today, including Scott Hahn, Francis Beckwith, Taylor Marshall, Holly Ordway, Abby Johnson, Jeff Cavins, Devin Rose, Matthew Leonard, Mark Regnerus, Jason Stellman, John Bergsma, Christian Smith, Kevin Vost, David Currie, Richard Cole, and Kenneth Howell. It also contains special appearances by experts in the field of conversion such as Patrick Madrid and Donald Asci.

Ultimately, this is a story about finding truth, beauty, and fulfillment in an unexpected place, and then sacrificing to grab on to it. I think it will entertain and inspire you, and perhaps even give you a fresh perspective on an old faith.

(Excerpt) Read more at indiegogo.com ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant; Other Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; willconvertforfood
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To: Elsie

I’ve asked about that myself. They’re in heaven then get put back on earth. This from a group that mocks the number of times certain Protestants believe Jesus Christ returns.


2,621 posted on 10/20/2014 4:49:40 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Elsie
Doesn't YOUR church TEACH that it's SAINTS are in Heaven

Absolutely.

2,622 posted on 10/20/2014 4:53:40 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: terycarl; metmom
>>I'd already know to keep holy the sabath<<

You worship on the seventh day?

2,623 posted on 10/20/2014 5:38:23 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: JPX2011

You have not proven anything here other than you justify MURDER.

All the rest of your words are just so much more ugly (and illogical) noise.

2,624 posted on 10/20/2014 6:53:18 AM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: JPX2011
Do you even understand what you post?

That sounds a lot like Roman Catholicism as commonly spoken of by many (but not all) Catholics -- when they are not taking care to recite wordings which profess reliance upon the sacrifice of Christ as propitiation for their sins.

But the Waldensians were not murdered for this.

They were murdered for not bowing down to Roman Catholic claims to 'authority'.

Since as you've said, you have no problem removing heretics from our midst--- what next?

Suicide, perhaps?

2,625 posted on 10/20/2014 7:10:05 AM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: editor-surveyor
The Sabbath begins at sundown on what you pagans call Friday

Can you define "you pagans" with Greek or Hebrew words found in the scriptures ? It's odd to see you using this Latin based word. If we look at Acts it seems to me the usage is not kosher when addressed to individuals here. Perhaps you intended the word, Gentiles which is not perjurative.

On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour: And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance, And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth: Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

2,626 posted on 10/20/2014 7:12:30 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
See what happens when I turn off the spelling software; perjurative = pejorative when spelled correctly.
2,627 posted on 10/20/2014 7:17:34 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: BlueDragon; JPX2011

Indeed, murder under the law is a largely a matter of jurisdiction. Because Jesus has specifically stated His kingdom is not of this world, no office of the Ecclesia Jesus is building has any authority to end a human life.

Therefore, the Roman heresy that tries to justify killing these alleged “soul murderers” is essentially making a false claim of temporal jurisdiction. So really you’ve got one definite heretic intentionally killing another alleged heretic, and as that fails of the principle of either justification or excuse (self defense, for example, could be a legitimate excuse for homicide), it is undeniably murder, and given the statements of Jesus concerning murder as a matter of the heart first of all, I do not know how those who in spirit support such murders can qualify for heaven, because we know unrepentant murderers will not be there:

(KJV)Revelation 22:14-16
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. [15] For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. [16] I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Peace,

SR


2,628 posted on 10/20/2014 7:27:15 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: JPX2011
Heresy is the murder of the soul. I don't have any problem with the practice of having heretics removed from our midst.

Clarification, please. Are you consenting to those FReepers who disagree with your religious beliefs and practices being removed from membership to FR, revoking their privilege to post on the Religion Forum only, or harsher punishment?
2,629 posted on 10/20/2014 8:19:09 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: JPX2011
Absolutely.

Then WHO are the Who are the dead in Christ in 1 Thessalonians 4:16??

2,630 posted on 10/20/2014 8:37:57 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JPX2011
Absolutely.

HOW did they get there?

2,631 posted on 10/20/2014 8:38:11 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
...pejorative when spelled correctly.

When I am talking; none can detect any misspellings at all!

(Mispronunciations seem to get by easier...)

2,632 posted on 10/20/2014 8:39:46 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Springfield Reformer
As you said, zeroing in on it (if you'll forgive the truncated quoting, here);
2,633 posted on 10/20/2014 8:50:39 AM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon
Catholicism explained:   
...a little...
 
 
 
Catechism
 
 
 
Holiday shopping under Rome
 
 
 
Separated Brethen
 
 
 
 
 
Magisterium
 
 
 
 
 
Doctrinal purity
 
 
 
 
 
Blessed Assurnce
 
 
 
 

2,634 posted on 10/20/2014 8:51:47 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JPX2011
I don't have any problem with the practice of having heretics removed from our midst.

Orrin Porter Rockwell must have been a Catholic first...

2,635 posted on 10/20/2014 8:53:38 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BlueDragon; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; Iscool; Elsie; ...

And this isn’t the first time......

It’s really pathetic that Catholics would justify murder for simply disagreeing with Catholicism. I wonder where they find that in Scripture? Or maybe that’s why the like to depend on tradition so much.

And then they don’t understand why people don’t want to be Catholic.

How clueless can you get?

Go figure.


2,636 posted on 10/20/2014 8:58:44 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Elsie
Orrin Porter Rockwell must have been a Catholic first...

While I'm still waiting on a clarification response from a poster, a little learning ain't a bad thang.
2,637 posted on 10/20/2014 9:02:28 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Springfield Reformer; BlueDragon; JPX2011
Indeed, murder under the law is a largely a matter of jurisdiction. Because Jesus has specifically stated His kingdom is not of this world, no office of the Ecclesia Jesus is building has any authority to end a human life.

People died at the word of a prophet or apostle so this general principle you propose seems incongruent with other scripture that we see in Acts, 1 Corinthians, and Revelation (the rest of the OT supporting my point, as in Moses and Elijah the prophet and the two witnesses ).

9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out. 10 Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband. 11 And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things. 12 And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people; (and they were all with one accord in Solomon's porch.

3For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, 4In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

4These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. 5And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. 6

2,638 posted on 10/20/2014 9:18:31 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981; Springfield Reformer; BlueDragon; JPX2011; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; ...

It’s absolutely appalling the number of Catholics who are advocating for the murder of non-Catholics whom they deem heretics, and then cobbling together unrelated passages of Scripture to justify it, no less.

There is NO justification found anywhere, including Scripture, for the murder of someone rejecting a denominational affiliation.

That the HOLY SPIRIT slew Ananias and Sapphira does NOT justify the RCC taking up the sword. It is NOT man’s job to remove people from this life.

To imply that Paul justifies that action by taking out of context his quote about removing the immoral brother from fellowship and using it to imply that he approves of MURDER for disagreeing with the church is unconscionable.

And the passage about the two witnesses in Revelation is not relevant in the least.

This post is an absolute abomination.


2,639 posted on 10/20/2014 9:28:03 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: af_vet_1981; Springfield Reformer; BlueDragon; JPX2011; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; ...

It’s absolutely appalling the number of Catholics who are advocating for the murder of non-Catholics whom they deem heretics, and then cobbling together unrelated passages of Scripture to justify it, no less.

There is NO justification found anywhere, including Scripture, for the murder of someone rejecting a denominational affiliation.

That the HOLY SPIRIT slew Ananias and Sapphira does NOT justify the RCC taking up the sword. It is NOT man’s job to remove people from this life.

To imply that Paul justifies that action by taking out of context his quote about removing the immoral brother from fellowship and using it to imply that he approves of MURDER for disagreeing with the church is unconscionable.

And the passage about the two witnesses in Revelation is not relevant in the least.

THAT post 2,638, is an absolute abomination.


2,640 posted on 10/20/2014 9:29:13 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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