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How should the (Catholic) Church care for same-sex attracted people? (Catholic Caucus)
cna ^ | October 7, 2014 | Ann Schneible

Posted on 10/07/2014 2:07:33 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 10/07/2014 2:07:33 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...
Addressing a wide range of issues cited by the document which relate to the family, he noted how “the majority of human beings seek personal happiness in life with a permanent bond between a man and a woman, together with the children of their union.” However, “the specific aspects of doctrine and the Church's Magisterium on marriage and family are not always sufficiently well-known by the faithful.”

Ignorance of the populace vs naivete of the episcopate. Generalizing same-sex attracted individuals as a group can never work, as it contains other nuanced aspects like trans-gendered and cross dressers. Ping!

CATHOLIC CAUCUS THREAD


2 posted on 10/07/2014 2:08:37 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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“Although aimed at eliminating homophobia, the introduction of this gender ideology (in some places at the elementary level) leads to the spreading of a mentality which “proposes, in fact, to undermine sexual identity.”

HUH???


3 posted on 10/07/2014 2:10:34 PM PDT by MNDude
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You can’t deny them entry to the church. But you don’t have to condone it just because our government calls you a homophobe. Has “0” to do with hate. The government just made that up.


4 posted on 10/07/2014 2:10:40 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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You can’t deny them entry to the church.

Yes, and they need to remain celibate and never act on their impulses.

5 posted on 10/07/2014 2:15:15 PM PDT by Cry if I Wanna
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When will Webster’s update the meaning of ‘phobia’ to something like...

Phobia - “to disagree because of moral or logical reasons”


6 posted on 10/07/2014 2:18:33 PM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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There’s a huge difference between same sex attraction and acting on those temptations. In our evangelical church, we teach that acting on homosexual feelings is clearly sinful. We also have groups, counseling and mentoring available for those who are struggling with same sex attraction, but want repent.

This at least opens the door to help these people learn about Christ. In many cases they accept Christ and find their identity in Him, instead of in their sexuality. Some have found complete healing from their homosexual feelings. Others have submitted to Christ and abstained from any sexual relations out of obedience to the Lord.

We often find out that homosexuals are simple messed up people, and Christ’s power works in them as it does with other habitual sinners.


8 posted on 10/07/2014 2:19:22 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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they express a desire to find “a balance between the Church's teaching on the family and respectful, non-judgemental attitude towards people living in such unions adultery.”

As long as we're aiming for the non-judgmental thing.

10 posted on 10/07/2014 2:26:25 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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You probably need to post the Caucus rules.


11 posted on 10/07/2014 2:29:15 PM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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That’s how our church handles it.


12 posted on 10/07/2014 2:29:33 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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I really do not see how we can in any way shape or form allow homosexual couples with adopted children to be recognized by the Church. The children perhaps if one "parent" remains unseen.

I think doing otherwise risks scandalizing the rest of the parish.

13 posted on 10/07/2014 2:34:43 PM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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Courage and Encourage [spiritual support for persons w/ same-sex attraction who are striving...
16 posted on 10/07/2014 3:16:42 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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The Catholic Church places the exact same restrictions on all persons, Sexual relations outside of marriage is forbidden.


18 posted on 10/07/2014 3:34:52 PM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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I think you have defined the only solution that remains Christian. Compassion, love, acceptance. But not license and willful blindness. You do no one a service when you ease the pathway to Hell.


19 posted on 10/07/2014 3:37:00 PM PDT by IronJack
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Tell them it’s a SIN, just like if they were thieves!!


20 posted on 10/07/2014 3:53:15 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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