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Protecting God’s Word From “Bible Christians”
Crisis Magazine ^ | October 3, 2014 | RICHARD BECKER

Posted on 10/03/2014 2:33:43 PM PDT by NYer

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To: narses

I already answered yes to all of your questions by giving examples.

Now answer this, what was Satan’s sin; in other words, why was Satan cast from Heaven?

Don’t simply say “rebellion.” Be specific.


421 posted on 10/05/2014 3:32:46 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse; ConservingFreedom; Unam Sanctam; x_plus_one; Patton@Bastogne; Oldeconomybuyer; ..

“I already answered yes to all of your questions by giving examples.”

Really? You claim the Church taught you Mary is God?


422 posted on 10/05/2014 3:34:08 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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To: CynicalBear

“Now show me where what Matthew teaches is not what the others teach.”

Now show me where the Apostles say Matthew’s gospel is inspired.


423 posted on 10/05/2014 3:35:09 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse; narses

“You really ought to sit and read the Bible all the way through, absent from anything to do with rituals, Mary and traditions.”

Reading the Bible is what kept me from every becoming a Protestant or joining some other sect. Reading the Bible has convinced me that the Catholic Church is true while Protestant sects are just man-made heretical groups.


424 posted on 10/05/2014 3:38:48 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
>>I'm still waiting for someone to find something about "worshipping Mary" in the Catechism.≤<

Whoooaaa here. Catholics tell us all the time how they hold beliefs long before they are officially declared dogma. The assumption of Mary being one of those. Now you want to hide behind the implication the Church doesn't teach it because it has not been officially declared? Could you be more duplicitous? I think not.

425 posted on 10/05/2014 3:42:27 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: vladimir998; narses; caww; metmom; CynicalBear; Elsie
History shows Catholicism has made up traditions and rituals. Some traditions and “beliefs” were later revoked.

Keep your traditions, rituals and man made-Pharisitical laws.

I'll follow Jesus.

426 posted on 10/05/2014 3:42:48 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: vladimir998; CynicalBear; metmom
Sure, just as soon as you show me the “Biblical” source for sola scriptura. Oh wait, that’s right, there isn’t any.

Jesus replied, "Your mistake is that you don't know the Scriptures, and you don't know the power of God. (Matt. 22:29)

Jesus sure seemed to hold to the concept and based His authority upon the sacred Scriptures. How many times did he quote Scripture to the devil when he was tempted? But, then, who is he really compared to the Roman Catholic church??? /sarc (as if that tag is necessary!)

427 posted on 10/05/2014 3:43:11 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums; ronnietherocket3

While there are indeed clumsy translations of clumsy translations out there, The 28 separate lines of Hebrew Matthew are not translations, but copies of the original gospel of Matthew.

They differ in all of the significant areas from the Greek translations, and from most of the Aramaic translations too. (most Aramaic translations are of a Greek translation)


428 posted on 10/05/2014 3:46:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Really? You claim the Church taught you Mary is God?


429 posted on 10/05/2014 3:50:18 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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To: verga; metmom; boatbums

And the actions of Catholics tell us a lot of what they believe.


431 posted on 10/05/2014 3:55:03 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: vladimir998

When Paul wrote to Timothy, only Matthew’s gospel existed of what we call the New Testament, and Paul being the elite intellectual snob that he obviously was, it is doubtful that he would have called anything that was not part of the Tanakh “scripture.”

You write with so little understanding, like one that is copying from the writings of another.
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432 posted on 10/05/2014 3:56:41 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: narses; ConservingFreedom; Unam Sanctam; x_plus_one; Patton@Bastogne; Oldeconomybuyer; metmom; ...
Really? You claim the Church taught you Mary is God?

You sound EXACTLY like a CERTAIN SERPENT in a garden.

Go back and read your questions and my answers. You asked if the church taught Mary was “God or even a god.”

With the title “coredemtrix” you have made her equal to The Savior Jesus. You have placed crowns and garlands on her graven image. You kneel before her graven image and request her favors which include...

A “hotline” to Jesus (we got a direct line when the curtain hiding the “Holy of Holies” was torn from top to bottom!)

Special protections for “praying to her”

Parole from Purgatory (if she can get you released from purgatory why is it necessary? Can she “Remove your Sins?”) - “Should one require Purgatorial cleansing after death, Our Lady will make a special effort to obtain our release from Purgatory through Her intercession as Advocate.”

All those who propagate the holy rosary shall be aided by me in their necessities.

There's more but I just went with the most interesting...

http://www.ask.com/wiki/Fifteen_rosary_promises

No thank you, Narses. I don't want your goddess. I have a Savior and Redeemer. He does not require a “coredemtrix” even if the pagan goddess worship is given fancy new titles and good PR from Rome.

Jesus is sufficient.

433 posted on 10/05/2014 3:58:19 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: verga

Catholics believe and practice long before it becomes official. Witness the belief in the assumption of Mary.


434 posted on 10/05/2014 3:59:30 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear; St_Thomas_Aquinas

The assumption of Mary being one of those. Now you want to hide behind the implication the Church doesn’t teach it because it has not been officially declared? Could you be more duplicitous? I think not.


Why did my Catholic Parish celebrate “The Feast of the Assumption of Our Lady?”


435 posted on 10/05/2014 4:00:09 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
Finally, I read the Bible at age 30. Reading the Bible opened my eyes to the Catholic Church. You really ought to sit and read the Bible all the way through, absent from anything to do with rituals, Mary and traditions. You might be surprised.

Great post, Red Horse, great testimony. We have quite a few ex-RC in our church, I've noticed that every one of their testimonies matches yours.

Seems as long as they are going through all the motions Catholics do, the mass, saying their rosary, etc., with all the accompanying outward regalia, the priestly robes, the nun's garments, the gold, the statues of Mary, etc., they never get around to doing like the Bereans in Acts 17:11 who searched the scripture "whether those things were so" (whether RC "things" are so).

The word of God, assuming they are not brainwashed by all the trappings of Roman system, will do that for honest Roman Catholics every time.

436 posted on 10/05/2014 4:00:54 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: CynicalBear; verga; boatbums; metmom; Salvation; narses

>> Catholics after all do like Jame’s “I’ll show you my faith by my works” <<

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Which could only be due to their lack of understanding of wherein James Faith was based.
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437 posted on 10/05/2014 4:00:57 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

And they can’t even prove they are the same traditions of the apostles.


438 posted on 10/05/2014 4:02:16 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

See post 164


439 posted on 10/05/2014 4:05:34 PM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: annalex
Who is it you think created the Septuagint

The Holy Ghost.

Riiight...like the Holy Ghost created the Vulgate? It's patently obvious that Roman Catholics have to denigrate Holy Scripture in order to lift up their traditions and hierarchy. The oracles of God are not the product of human philosophy or men's thoughts, but are DIVINELY inspired and stand as the authority ABOVE human institutions. Holy men of God spoke as they were moved/carried along by the Holy Ghost. I know for a fact that Paul did not include the Apocrypha as God-breathed Scripture in his exhortation to Timothy and all believers. To even suggest he did is ridiculous and demonstrates the poor view some Roman Catholics have of God's word.

440 posted on 10/05/2014 4:06:06 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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