Posted on 09/30/2014 11:41:47 AM PDT by NYer
The gloriously triumphant return of Jesus is because He kills all of His enemies. That is victory and the only way to the true peace on earth prophesied at His birth.
That indeed is a good reference.
But better make sure you’re wearing clean underwear in case the Rapture happens!
Personally do not know anyone who has done a serious word study on the subject and still believes in it. Reading what others say it means as opposed to writing every relevant passage out and dissecting it yourself because you want to know how wonderful God is makes a big difference. I did and I don’t believe in the rapture as defined by the salesmen.
An employee and his boss are walking down the street and see Jesus. The employee says “Hey, it’s Jesus! Jesus, may I ask one thing?”
Jesus says, “Of course, my son. What do you wish?”
The employee says “This world means nothing to me. I wish to be in Paradise today!”
Jesus says “I shall grant you this, faithful one.” And the employee vanishes.
“And what would you ask for, my child? Name anything you like” Jesus says to the boss.
The boss replies, “I want him back at his desk after lunch!”
Yes, that’s what I was replying to and you gave no Biblical reference that actually says “the church” is what is being spoken about in 2 Thes, unless I have missed it.
No I first stated I am a non-denominational post-tribulationist. I can worship in pretty much any Church that believes Jesus is the Son of God, died for our sin, and rose from the dead. Pretty simple. The rest of theology is like going to a family reunion with people who are on the family tree going back 2000 years.
” I did and I don’t believe in the rapture as defined by the salesmen.”
Agreed.
I don’t dismiss anybody’s opinion and don’t wish to fight over it, but...
I find strange that people think we have to be physically swept away somewhere to be safe. It kinda seems faithless to me.
Easter is candy.
Christ IS the Passover Lamb. If you have Him, you can be in the midst of death and destruction (as with the first Passover) and be quite unharmed.
He’ll be great, if they do the movie right.
I think the Holy Spirit restrains NON-believers. They will no longer hear both voices, the one shown on old cartoons on the left, a devil, and one on the right, an angel. They will only hear Satan. Not unlike zombies in “I am Legend.”
I wish that were true. My ex was a born again Catholic but went to a Christian junior college and got way-laid by existentialism. Majored in philosophy at Wheaton but we had zero spiritual life. Could have been sooo different. He called me a Christian Taliban and lives in New England.
There are 3 things (if you can bring more ideas to the table, I'm all ears!) that could be considered to be "holding back" the anti-christ from being revealed. Those are considered to be governments, the church, and the Holy Spirit - since this is going to be AFTER the 10 kingdoms of "Revised Rome" have been put back together (indicating heavy reliance on government), and the fact that the Holy Spirit will NOT be removed, that leaves the church. I'll admit it is arrived at after deduction, but again, if you can give me another "force" that would be able to hold back the anti-christ, I'm always happy to study more!
Her comment that ‘no one takes that stuff seriously’ speaks to the people in her personal circle; her priest, her family, her friends, and her fellow parishioners.
I was raised Catholic and although I credit and thank the church with establishing my wonderful relationship with Jesus, we did not discuss scripture and I never heard of the rapture. I was a “cafeteria Catholic” from age 10 when I decided I would talk directly to Jesus about my sins every day and stopped going to confession. Made no sense to put the priest between me and Jesus. Jesus healed me and talked to me during those sessions. The Priest, not so much. Also, I loved to pray so calling it penance made no sense to me. With Jesus, He’d expect and teach me about repentance and atonement. Like when I took my sister’s pack of gum, He wanted me to put three packs of gum in her drawer to make things even and to heal her hurt I caused. Baby sitting money came in handy. : )
I remember the “great” Rapture movement back in the early/mid 60s. In my small town I saw cars with the bumper sticker “In case of Rapture, this car will be unmanned.” I didn’t understand what it meant. then I heard an explanation and I thought, “an interesting view of God and how He works” and never much thought about it after that.
I still don’t worry about “the Rapture” or particularly “when” it will happen because I think I need to be ready for my soul to go to heaven “right now” not after a time of preparation once I “see the signs.”
I have never read any of the “left behind books” back then in the early & mid-70s I found the Mack Bolan novels much more interesting, especially when on a long night shift on Charge of Quarters when I was in the Army.
I think that God is probably listening in when a Catholic confesses his sins to his priest. And is it harder to admit sins to another than just to admit them to Jesus and His Father alone? BTW, I’m not Catholic. And I believe that Paul mentioned something about Believers confessing their sins in public before communion.
Is this another anti-Catholic thread?!
Oh, wait...
I still do.
I don't know what I would gain if I expected to be Raptured, or if I thought this event would occur and miss me.
I wondered about that. I’m very surprised Cage chose to do the role. But who knows. maybe God will use this to draw Cage to Him.
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