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There is so much error in that article one would be hard pressed to know where to start. I will say that when someone begins with the belief that the “church” is now Isreal there is no way they will understand prophesy.


20 posted on 09/23/2014 7:47:58 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decideIf I need to locate a verse, do I ask thed to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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Where does it say "Israel is the "church"?

Israel is His people. God has an irrevocable covenant with them. They are left behind to suffer the Beast in the Temple, but they will see Jesus and repent. Zech 13:6 tells of the Jews repentance as a nation in the Last Days. Zech 12:10 tell us the Jews are specifically given Grace. The whole purpose of His return is to save Israel from the armies from the north. The 144,000 are clearly Jews from the tribes as evangelists in the last days. The Rapture is the church going to Him, not the return of Christ to rule and reign on Earth.

To believe God has forgotten His people is the error. We are the ones that have been "adopted" into God's people. We are His people and He is our God, just as promised in Gen 12:1-3. The Jews are a special people to God, always have been, always will be. Just read all of Zechariah and you will see that it was God's plan from the beginning to blind the Jews so we could be saved and He would reveal Himself in the Last Days to save them. It's clear that God is speaking of the nation of Israel and not just Christians as His church. Some have said that since Jesus came "Israel" means the church. Israel means Israel. When the separation of Goats and Sheep comes, He is speaking of judging the nations about how they treated Israel, not about believing and non believing people. This is why it is absolutely imperative we support Israel in America.

That is what you should have taken away when Ted Cruz was booed last week when he mentioned Israel. He absolutely did the right thing by leaving. We are in GREAT DANGER by even having Obama as president right now as I believe the "Last Days" are VERY close and it is CLEAR that he doesn't respect Israel. Revelations tells us Jesus will rule with an "iron rod" those NATIONS that rejected Israel. We have personal salvation, but there will also be judgement on the nations. It has always been a contentious subject, but IMO, The AntiChrist will be revealed in the Temple 3 1/2 years after peace agreement is signed between the Jews and Pali's. We will be saying "Peace and safety" for 1260 days and he will say, in the Temple, "I am God" you must worship me. I believe the Rapture will happen then. The "foolish virgins" will be left behind to suffer great persecution, but they can be saved if they reject the Mark, or die from beheading. That is the sound crying from under the alter for vengeance. When Israel is surrounded and there is no more hope of escape, Jesus, and His raptured church will return to save Israel and reign from Jerusalem for 100 years.

There are so many parables an Biblical warnings for Christians to Not be a foolish virgin or a disobedient servant and miss the train outta here, there is no excuse. The whole book of Song of Solomon is about Jesus knocking on the door of a sleeping church trying to get them to come OUT and receive blessing, but almost no one preaches on it for fear of saying something "vulgar". Jesus is going to get married to a Bride, not come to make friends. Would you marry an acquaintance? Everyone should think back how it was when they were about to marry. You married the person who called you every 10 minutes and wrote silly notes to you that you dare not share with even your family. The "passion" had to be there or you wouldn't have risked marriage. That is why they call it "The Passion of Christ" when speaking of His crucifixion.

To find out if you will be in the Rapture or be left behind to suffer, just look at your passion and decide if you would marry you, in the last day. You cannot be double minded or serve two masters. The Jews that have worshiped the God of Abraham from the beginning will be saved by His Grace. To some Jews, it is a racial thing and they are atheists. Israel will be saved. I trust His judgement.

35 posted on 09/23/2014 8:48:28 AM PDT by chuckles
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