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Women Do Not Have to Submit to an Abusive Man, Says Pastor Tony Evans
Christian Post ^ | 09/18/2014 | Nicola Menzie

Posted on 09/18/2014 7:47:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Mrs. Don-o

Oh, men will *say* anything to get what they want.

My father was a born-again x-tian (I wouldn’t insult Christians by using his name in that sentence) who loved Gd and was sooooo holy. He prayed every night...

Yeah. Right. Then the wedding ring came on and the truth came out.


21 posted on 09/18/2014 4:11:30 PM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: ryan71
There are a hell of a lot of abusive women these days, too. Men don’t need to submit to them or fight them. Get away from them.

SO TRUE.
This kind of abuse happens in EVERY culture and faith, NOT just the cultures and faiths that may be loathed on this site. It's a horror that both genders, all ages and all socio-economic groups have to deal with.

There are strong women and weak men in this world, since we inherit HALF our genes from each parent. And our parents inherited HALF of their genes from their parents. It goes all the way back to Adam and Eve.

Submitting to the strong spouse, whether male or female, or fighting with them is totally unnecessary and those who assume that faith, culture or socio-economic decide on whether there is abuse or not, haven't got a clue.

So, THAT being said, men and women DO EXPRESS themselves very differently. That DOES have to do with culture...BUT not necessarily faith or socio-economic status.

It's rather difficult to paint human behavior with too narrow or wide a brush. Generalizations DO make people feel comfortable, especially those generalizations about groups that people here don't like.

YOURS is the very best advice: GET A WAY FROM THEM.
GET OUTTA DODGE.

22 posted on 09/18/2014 4:45:39 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Here is your comment that I gave answer to.,


A wife would be insane to submit to a husband who was not submitted to Christ.>>>>>>

Why would it make any difference? a vow is a vow, why would you marry him to begin with if you did not intend on keeping your vow?.

Another question: is a husband obliged to live with an abusive wife? One who abuses him and the kids?>>>>>>

I know some who does, they do not believe in divorce, besides abuse in ones eye is not abuse in some one else`s.

Most people do not know what abuse is until they get trained by the abuse teachers.


23 posted on 09/18/2014 6:43:23 PM PDT by ravenwolf (nd)
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To: ravenwolf
I'm certainly not saying she should divorce him if he's not "submitted to Christ." She has made a vow, and for argument's sake we'll presume it's a binding one.

However, if he is abusive --- which was the original topic of this thread --- nobody is obliged to live with an abuser: I'm going to define this strictly, a person who inflicts or threatens to inflict bodily harm on her and/or the children. ("Emotional" is a different matter.)

She may still be faithful to him as per her vow, but it is morally wrong to expose, especially your children, to abuse, which would include their having to witness their father abusing their mother.

24 posted on 09/19/2014 6:45:23 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (God's grace has been revealed, and has made salvation possible for the whole human race. (Titus 2))
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To: Mrs. Don-o

However, if he is abusive -— which was the original topic of this thread -— nobody is obliged to live with an abuser: I’m going to define this strictly, a person who inflicts or threatens to inflict bodily harm on her and/or the children. (”Emotional” is a different matter.)


I would not blame any woman for not taking that kind of abuse, I have saw that a few times in my life and also the other side, it is pathetic.


25 posted on 09/19/2014 10:35:09 AM PDT by ravenwolf (nd)
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